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Are You A Backslider Who's Sick Of Backsliding?


By: David Hopkins

Wed, Jun 22, 2005


If you're a backslider you need to know what causes you to backslide. If you don't, do you at least know how to get back right with God? But most importantly, how to prevent yourself from backsliding in the first place? If not, you'll discover the answers to those all important questions in this article.

Which Type Of Backslider Are You?

According to Jesus in one of His famous parables there are three ways a person can backslide. (Mark 4:3-20).

Seed that falls by the wayside, seed that falls on stony ground, and seed that falls among thorns.

Seed that falls by the wayside is the word of God that you get but don't understand. The devil comes immediately causing you to forget. Then you go back to what you're used to doing and you backslide.

Seed that falls on stony ground is the word of God that you get and understand but it's not rooted inside you. So when the devil comes with hard times you can't handle it. This offends you, so you get mad and backslide.

Seed that falls among thorns is the word of God mixed in with the cares of this world, pursuit of riches, and other lusts. This chokes the word before it can produce and you go back to doing what the world does, give up and backslide.

How To Turn Back From Backsliding

A backslider is a Christian who withdraws him or herself away from devotion to God and His word to go back under the control of a self-pleasing spirit.

"The backslider in heart shall be filled with his own ways..." (Proverbs 14:14).

This occurs when fear somehow replaces the faith you have in God. It then causes you to run away from the spirit of God back into the sinful world of the flesh to satisfy your doubt and unbelief.

This means you must be careful not to mix yourself up with former sins and addictions like you did in the past. But if you do there will come a time when you regret it. Your soul will long to be back depending on the Lord your God for direction and guidance. You may even be experiencing these feelings right now as you're reading this article. But don't worry.

God said, "Return, ye backsliding children, and I will heal your backslidings..." (Jeremiah 3:22).

So how do you return to God? "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord." (Acts 3:19). Therefore repent, get back into the word, and let God blot out your sins. It's that simple. Just pray and ask God to forgive you and clean you up.

What Backslider Prevention Technique?

Right before telling another one of His famous parables Jesus said, "That men ought always to pray, and not to faint." (Luke 18:1)

The keyword in that sentence is the word faint. This is just another way of saying backslide. Jesus is talking about "praying without ceasing" or stopping. (1 Thessalonians 5:17). You should do this instead of giving up and backsliding.

The parable goes on to explain how a wicked judge who had no regard for God avenged a widow even though he could care less whether justice was done for her or not. Yet He avenged her because she showed initiative, was persistent, didn't give up and kept asking him. Because of this he said in his heart "Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me."

The point of the parable is if a wicked judge avenges a widow simply on the basis of her continual asking, "shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?" The answer of course is an astounding YES! So don't forget to keep praying to God without giving up until He gives you whatever you ask Him to do for you.

For example: if the devil steals some word from you, or if hard times come, or even if you love money and sex a little bit too much you can keep praying to God to deliver you from whatever it is that causes you to backslide. Don't be afraid because eventually He will heal you of your backsliding and you will be free. So don't ever give up on praying to God no matter how you feel or how bad your situation looks.

In conclusion, it is also extremely important that you continue to pray after God has forgiven you, and cleanses you and when you are in good standings with Him. Because Jesus said, "Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak." (Matthew 26:41).

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Victor 23 Dec 2007
Just good teaching that you can understand apply to
your own life and teach others
Corrina 08 May 2008
This morning, after recommiting my life to the lord, i
did a search on backsliding. shortly after i came
across your page. i just wanted to thank you for
helping me to understand what's happening a little
better. i have been backslidden for over a decade now,
and i so long to return to god. i am struggling with
the doubts (as usual) that god will take me back. your
article was almost like god was speaking to me
Marilyn 06 Nov 2008
Thank you for this. it's funny that you posted this
today. like corrina, i just googled backsliding and i
was about to give up with no answer but i made one more
look... i have been saved for over 2 years and already
backslidden once, it was horrible. i felt myself
withdrawing from him again but have no one to go to. my
church home is broken. but i can pray. i haven't been
praying for about a week now. anyway, thank you.
Ryan 24 Mar 2009
I think if you are someone like me, reading this
article on backsliding because you believe that you
have turned away from the lord yet again and may not be
worthy of forgiveness, than you can be comforted in the
fact in your heart you realize that you have turned
away from him but that his forgiveness is infinitely
larger than our capacity to stray! praise be to god who
loves us beyond understanding.

Clay 09 Jul 2009
For the past few years i have been saved over and over
but backslide everytime, i will try my hardest this
time not to backslide, thanks for the article.
Dane 18 Jul 2009
Wow.....unbelieveable....i was looking for hope for my
backslidden ways and was hoping that god would take me
back, somehow, but wasnt sure until i read your
article....and as marilyn said it is funny it was today
because i never looked at the date this article was
written until i have read the whole thing and then
looked back to see what date it!..... god
is definitely using you to help others in their
backslidden state who want to return....thank you so
Donna 01 Sep 2009
Hi corrina!
through reading your comment i knew that god was
beginning to work a newness in me. i personally, have
been a backslidder for almost nine years and i thought
how could a god that i desserted want me back? thanks
Donna 01 Sep 2009
Thanks corrina!
your post has helped me in ways you have no idea! god
is love and he is real. i too, have a backslidden past
of nine years/ ten and god had you post your message
straight for me!
Jay 05 Oct 2009, i decided just his weekend that i wanted to
stop backsliding. i miss my relationship with god but
yet i feel so seperated from him. the funny thing is
that when u fall back in just one sin, u commit many.
this article is something that i needed and god led me
to this website. god bless.
Donna 06 Oct 2009
Jay, just hang in there! as you have read above we are
all sailing in the same boat. god is a forgiving god
and he alone will reunite you with his holy spirit. in
my trial i have felt seperated as yourself. on the
otherhand little by little through obedience god is
allowing me to feel his presence once again. i'm sure
he's there for you as well. study his word and ask for
his understanding and he'll show up! may god bless you!
Jay 06 Oct 2009
Thanks donna for your words of kindess and truth. i am
going to if i have to but i am determined to
get back on the right path. i know the way and i know
that none of us are perfect but we have to keep
striving. we have to live for god because he died for
us. thanks again
Donna 06 Oct 2009
Jay, blessed is the man who trust in the lord, whose
confidence is in him. jeremiah 17:17
i know god is with us, we just have to prove that we
are sincere and be doers of his word. you continue to
be strong as well as i'm doing the same, and i know
that we will once again be renewed through his spirit.
god bless you
Henry 18 Dec 2009
I've backslided for over 7 years and i haven't felt the
same since..thank you for the posts, they have really
helped me get back on track. i have alot of praying to
do..thanks again

god bless you all
Cheri 03 Apr 2010
Wow!!!!!!! the lord works in mysterious ways, doesn't
he? today is my 38th birthday! i have been feeling
truly backslidden for a while now in regards to some
stories i have written and some things that i have said
and did that have made me feel very inferior.

thank you for giving us this site to read. god bless
you all on getting back right with the lord. *hugs* to
you all and happy easter!
Jonas 18 Apr 2010
Too many websites talk about how to serve god like this
but few are giving practical examples like yours
..thats why i like it...somehow. i have gone thru many
searches..i have to settle here for now and keep

i'm a backslider i want to go back home. i'm a kind of
bitter right now
Queana 19 Apr 2010
Recently i fell into the sin of adultery. i have been
married going on 9 years, i left my church just this
week where i was ordained. i feel like such a hypocrit,
what kind of reverend am i. i know god is married to a
backslider and is forgiving, i just can't forgive
myself. after i committed the sin of adultery, i found
myself drinking, and now i listen to secular music
again. i don't know how i allowed myself to get here.
pray for me please
Donna 20 Apr 2010
Dear queana,
first and foremost, there is none perfect, but the
father. when the woman at the well confessed her sins
to jesus he forgave her and told her to sin no
more...the men who wanted to condemn her, jesus stated
to them "he who is without sin be the first to cast the
stone." god is a merciful god and he is a forgiving

Queana 20 Apr 2010
Thank you for the words of encouragement donna. just
continue to pray my strength in the lord, because right
now i don't have any.
Edmund thabiso 30 Apr 2010
Please pray for me as i keep backsliding, the lust of
the need help
Jay 13 May 2010
I was a professed believer that wilfully sinned for
many years. humbers15:22-21, hebrews 6:4-6,10:26-31,
1pet 2:20-21, 1john 5:16-18. those verses seem to
diqualify me, no matter hoe right i want to be made
right with god
Donovan 16 May 2010
For jay and everyone!!
passage romans 8:31-40:

nothing can separate us from god’s love

31 what shall we say about such wonderful things as
these? if god is for us, who can ever be against us? 32
since he did not spare even his own son but gave him up
for us all, won’t he also give us everything else? 33
who dares accuse us whom god has chosen for his own? no
one—for god himself has given us right standing with
Donovan 16 May 2010
34 who then will condemn us? no one—for christ jesus
died for us and was raised to life for us, and he is
sitting in the place of honor at god’s right hand,
pleading for us.
35 can anything ever separate us from christ’s love?
does it mean he no longer loves us if we have trouble
or calamity, or are persecuted, or hungry, or
destitute, or in danger, or threatened with death? 36
(as the scriptures say, “for your sake we are killed
every day; we are being slaughtered like sheep
Donovan 16 May 2010
37 no, despite all these things, overwhelming victory
is ours through christ, who loved us.

Donovan 16 May 2010

38 and i am convinced that nothing can ever
separate us from god’s love. neither death nor life,
neither angels nor demons,[b] neither our fears for
today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the
powers of hell can separate us from god’s love. 39 no
power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed,
nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate
us from the love of god that is revealed in christ
jesus our lord.

John 20 May 2010
I've been separated from my wife for almost 2yrs now.
during this time i started talking to a woman on
facebook, long story short i slept with her and now she
says she is pregnant with twins of mine. i've been
sober since then (7 days as of today) and have asked
forgiveness to god. i just get so overwhelmed and don't
know what to do. i'm scared to tell my wife this
because i'm afraid it'll deal the final blow to my
marriage. i don't love this woman that is pregnant.
John 20 May 2010
Sorry the 500 char limit cut me off. i was saved years
ago but fell away from god. just don't know what to do
and appreciate any prayers/advice.
Corey 27 May 2010
Im 34 and been backslidden after leaving bible school
when i was 19.fell into a bikie gang and drugs,getting
tattooed,jail etc,etc.thought god had ditched me but
thanks to this website i know he hasnt.first time ive
felt his presence in a long time.thankfully he thinks
more of me than i do.thanks guys!
Kurt 04 Jun 2010
I'm surprised with this article just like corinna that
it was written today. just as i was thinking of
backsliding again this article came up when i
googled.thank you for sharing the different causes of
backsliding.after knowing this, now i know how to
addresss this problem and possibly to stop from
backsliding again.
Jeff 09 Jun 2010
Wow, i am with everyone eles i can't beleive that this
was written today!!!!

i am tired, so very tired of being a hypocrite and
backslider. but how you you seperate yourself from the
person that you are in the backsliding with. without
hurting them or destroying the relationship?
Sophia 21 Jun 2010
Thank you! i have been backslidden for two years. and i
felt i wasn't worthy of god anymore. today though we
had someone come out to fix something in our yard. the
guy happened to know a lot about the bible and started
talking about it. at this point i didn't think i could
return to god. but right after he left i did a search
and your article came up first! it was written the the
day i needed it the most! thank you so much. i wrote
more but its too long.
Sophia 21 Jun 2010
Wow thank you donovan! i too like jay was afraid that i
had willfully sinned. i struggled with hebrews 10:26-29
for so long. i had cried because i thought i was
hopelessly lost. i know now that i am not lost. to jay
there is hope don't stop believing in god's
thank you donovan!
Malihe 30 Jun 2010
Amazing. this was written today! ive been praying
everyday for about a week. it's a record for me in
years and god answered my prayers with your post. thank
you, it is refreshing to know that god's love will
absolutely never separate us from anything. i got saved
10 years ago. for past 5 years, ive been backsilding
but i could feel that jesus is leading me back to him.
thank you. god bless
Pete 19 Jul 2010
I've been backslidden for 25 years now, last month my
lovely wife died at age 40. i left the house for only a
moment to get food came back, she was gone. she was
actively searching for the lord but don't know if she
got saved. i'm broken hearted, filled with guilt. i’m
not sure what to live for now but i’ve asked jesus to
forgive me. i’m not sure if he’s tired of me running to
him only when in trouble. please pray for me, ask the
lord to have mercy on my wife. thanks.
Pete 19 Jul 2010
Queana, i think i originally backslid because of guilt
(i was having sex out of wedlock) instead of just
asking for forgiveness and going back to the lord, i
just started to get worse doing more sin, having more
guilt, forgetting jesus. now after my situation, i have
a lot of doubt but hopefully he hasn’t forgotten me. i
pray that you ask for forgiveness and he saves you from
your sin.
Pete 19 Jul 2010
Edmund, i know what you are going through; i’ve been
addicted to it. it’s so easy to get that garbage on the
internet and it’s like a drug. i pray god takes the
desire for porn out of your heart.
Jeremy 01 Aug 2010
I stopped going to church about 3-4 years ago. i
really miss it. the main reason why i stopped going
was because i felt the lord was convicting me to make
restitution in something i was involved with many years
ago. i'm worried if i try to make things right, i will
end up in prison. i've already been to prison once,
and i really don't want to go back. i have already
made alot of restitution, and i got fed up with it, so
i stopped everything.
Sue 22 Aug 2010
I read how evry1 said this was posted the day they read
it and by doggone it, i looked at the date and, it was
only 2 hours ago! i, too, am a backslider of 20 yrs
and i've anguished over "will god take me back?" for a
very long time, now. i'm reminded of the prodigal son.
backsliding leaves a rawness that is hard to recover
Angel 05 Sep 2010
Its been 4 years now, i still go to church but i am
dead inside. i need to come home but i am so lost i
don't know where i am even at any more or how to stop
all this and return. please pray for me. it was god i
foudn this today. thank you for being obediant to write
Angel 05 Sep 2010
Amazing i do a google search today on backsliding and
this was just written today. i served the lord
faithfully 30 years. i'd never been with anyone but my
husband. during a bad period in my marriage i committed
adultry and not just with one man. my spiritual
condition has gotten worse and worse.
Chantelle 06 Sep 2010
I am saved and have been for 2 n a half years. god has
done so much for me and i continued sinning again and
again. i made my boyfriend my god whilst i continued to
worship god. it was such a mess i was still going to
church every week but having sex once every couple
months. i got pregnant a couple months after me being
saved he was saved also around the same time but
backslidded n doesnt go to church whereas i do
Chantelle 06 Sep 2010
The devil made a mess of my life but god is merciful i
still have a nice house a beautiful daughter and family
that support me etc so im greatful i havent lost
everything! my mum and boyfriend constantly argued and
me believing i had to honour my mother i would never
support my boyfriend n he feels i let him down and has
now left me. my mum wouldnt let him in the house for a
year now not even to see his daughter and so he blames
me and her for missing out on his daughters life.
Chantelle 06 Sep 2010
The devil split our family but im believing that god
will restore our family so that my daughter doesnt have
to have a single parent family like me and her father.i
also pray that he genuinely becomes a born again
christian because the only way we can make things work
is if god is the head. today i have genuinely repented
of having sex and god forgives me! he is sooo great
Emily 08 Sep 2010
I can't believe that this has been posted today, when
people left this same comment about their disbelief i
scrolled up to see when the date was and was in awe to
see it was posted today! how awesome? it makes me feel
better that i haven't been the only backslider! i want
to be sold out to jesus.
Emily 08 Sep 2010
Can i ask one question though? what do you do when some
of your friends do not know jesus, nor do they want to,
and your best friend is gay? do you keep loving on them
and showing them god is the way, or do you move on and
surround yourself with supporters who have the same
beliefs as you...?
thank you.
Judith 24 Sep 2010
Emily, in answer to your ? about your friends...the
scripture says "bad companions corrupt good manners."

i know it is hard to find friends that share the same
values but one must love the lord more than friends and
pleasures of this world.

god bless !
Aretha 25 Sep 2010
I got saved at about age 7, but i begin to use my
circumstance as an excuse to diregard the warning in
gods word. it has taken me a long time to even admit
that i was a backslider in part because i didn't really
know what one was, or what was concidered backsliding,
then all of a sudden i got the idea to google, i am a
backslider, and i found this article which was exactly
what i needed to read. so i wanted to say thank you to
who ever posted this article. thank your. thank you.
Judith 25 Sep 2010
Remember god's word says "...his mercies are fresh
every morning."

as a child of god i have backslidden many times. i
was never more miserable than when i was swept up in
the pleasures of this world and separated from the
intimacy of the holy spirit. once confession of my
sins was made, my conscience was clear, and i keep
trying to walk the straight and narrow.
not to obtain salvation - jesus has already paid for
my sins - but to keep fellowship and to be useful in
his kingdom.
Judith 25 Sep 2010

in today's society, it is very hard, if not
impossible, to be spotless, without close companions
who help us on our journey, pick us up, know our
struggles, and pray for us daily. be blessed !

thank-you, david hopkins, for this website.
Redeemed 24 Oct 2010
The lord loves us and he will never let us go. the lord
jesus says that he has not lost one that the father has
given him. i have saved for 10 yrs and was recently
tempted to backslide. i moved away from my family and
support network to take a job in a new state and i
became very vulnerable. i prayed to the lord to keep me
and he did!we have an advocate in jesus christ who is
seated at the right hand of the father who prays for us
because as we are tempted he was likewise tempted.
Bill 21 Nov 2010
Hey…i just want to say to all of you…god bless all of
you and god strengthen all of you. i can relate to most
of what all of you have written. i’m a repeated
backslider myself who can never stay faithful to the
lord. i struggle all the time with certain biblical
versus too. i will pray for all of you.
we need to encourage and support each other. i wish
there was a site just for us backsliders…maybe one of
you know how to create one?
god bless and lead all of you,
Joan 25 Nov 2010
If you have backslidden, you are going to hell. i have
not lived a good life after converting to christ, and i
know i am going to hell. i can not get god's
forgiveness now. neither can you. so anyone that tells
you that you can come back to god is lying
Bill 26 Nov 2010

you know that can't be true...
if it were...most wouldn't get saved...incuding king
Judith 26 Nov 2010

perhaps you weren't saved to begin with. salvation is
in christ, not in us. if we could earn it, we wouldn't
need a savior. "if we confess our sins, he is faithful
to forgive us." paul wrote in the book of romans that
a war was going on within us and the good we want to do
we don't do; however 'there in now no condemnation for
those who are in christ.' i sincerely hope you put
your trust in his finished work and not your own.
Jl 03 Dec 2010
Greetings you all. i have been child of lord jesus from
a very young age. but, from a very young age i started
backsliding. in high school i became interrested in the
things of the devil through heavy metal music. after
school, for a few years i could not even pray. 11 years
ago i returned to the lord. the past 11 years i had the
habit of backsliding severely and returning to the
lord. anyway, this is the first place i find fellow
backsliders like me. may all of us become steadfast in
the lord.
Jl 03 Dec 2010
Hi again. thank you very much for the teaching, david
hopkins. thank you also for the bible reading planner.
thanks to all those who left messages on this site. the
following link is a description of my experience as a
backslider, i found it on the net the other day.
heart/iv_what_are_consequences_of.htm may lord jesus
help us to become steadfast in him.
Justin 11 Jan 2011
I feel like i sinned too much too. i been fearing
hebrews 10:26, 6:4-6.

i have said sinners prayer many times because doubt my
salvation because of my back sliding. i know jesus is
god and is the only way and really want to be free from
my hypocricy, drunkeness, homosexuality, temper and
lust. i really want to change. i did a search on
backsliding and again what is today's date? it is
january 11, 2011.

i am starting to think the devil is telling me i am
not saved.
Pete 11 Jan 2011
Justin, i feel the same way, i was saved 25 years ago
and doubt my salvation, my aunt keeps encouraging me to
pray and be patient, jesus doesn't always answer prayer
right away.
Bill 11 Jan 2011
Hey justin,
just letting you know you’re not alone in your
struggles and backsliding. it’s certainly not easy.
struggling with sin, backsliding and to top it
off…god’s words…and possibly finding them
threatening…is much to handle at times. let’s pray for
god’s never ending mercy, forgiveness, patients and
compassion. we are all very very broken.
and if satan is telling you something…then you know
not to listen…it can only end in lies.
be well justin…hang in there.
Jl 14 Jan 2011
Justin, my brother, i will pray for you. we have found
this website where we found people with the same
struggle as us. i also feared that i did the
unforgivable sin. i once read a commentary on it. they
said that the last person that did that sin is the one
that worries whether he/she did it. return to the lord
jesus, my brother. pray for the will to return if you
feel that you do not really want to return. (continued
on next message)
Jl 14 Jan 2011
Ask the almighty lord jesus to open your eyes. we have
no where else to run, he is our only hope. and his
mercy is endless. i returned to the lord jesus on 2
january 2011. i cried and cried and cried. i was on
drugs again. i cried: "messiah! help me!". he showed me
how very very dark things were around me, how much
destruction i caused in my life and the lives of my
family. i felt that i was the worst off ever. but, he
picked me up.(continued in next message)
Jl 14 Jan 2011
I really believe that he will pick you up also. tell
him exactly what an awful person you are. tell him
exactly what you think of yourself. tell him exactly
what you did. tell him exactly how dark it is around
you. and, cried out for help. just cry "lord jesus,
messiah, help me! save me! i beg you!". he will surely
show you the truth! he is so very near to the broken
hearted! (continued)
Jl 14 Jan 2011
He will show you how dark things are, how terrible your
sin is. you will probably want to through up when he
shows you your awful self. but, he will show you the
light. he will come to your rescue. he will give you
purpose. all the sins that you love to do, you will
start to hate those awful sins. everything else will
look so dim and dark compared to his magnificent
wonderful light. nothing can compare to it. (continued)
Justin 14 Jan 2011
I have repented. not to say i am sinless but i haven't
drank nor fornicated nor looked at pornography since i
done this.

i once fear unpardonable sin too and i found articles
about it a few years back that mentioned the fear you
said. the question is, hebrews 6 and hebrews 10
talking about the unpardonable sin? some say it
describes apostasy.
Jl 14 Jan 2011
If you do not feel like crying, pray for tears. pray
for him to show the truth! and, cry for help. if you do
not feel like crying for help, pray that he will show
you your helplessness! read ezekiel 18. our only hope
is in verses 21 to 23! lord jesus, messiah, save my
brother justin! in your name i ask this. please bring
him back from the darkness into the light, the only
light, your light. bring him back to you, lord god
christ jesus! amen! hallelujah!
Jl 14 Jan 2011
I am so very glad that you repented, brother! about
your question: well, i think of apostasy as the
unforgivable sin. as i think, it is the same thing.
but, let us not talk about the darkness anymore, let us
talk about the light. about lord jesus christ. my
brother, may the lord bless you! may he bless us all
and keep us from falling again. love in jesus.
jan-louis. ps: let us delve into the bible, the word of
god, like never before. there are so many treasures.
Justin 14 Jan 2011
Repentance means more than to be sorry but rather be
sorry enough to change?

there is another school of thought that says
repentance means to "change ones mind."

are these different or are they the same?

which denomination group is correct? i am leaning
toward a non-denominational church that is strictly
biblical. i am not affiliated with a church and know
its importance. (continue on next mail...)
Justin 14 Jan 2011
I have been watching a few youtube videos of christians
posting their thoughts. i sent an e-mail to a fellow
christian saying how much i liked what he said. he
said something along the lines of getting hate mail (i
guess) or trouble for what he said. he said what i
wrote him helped him deal with it.

the same goes for me. christians help each other with
their struggles. i think this is why i need to find a
good church/group. god helps empowers us but we also
give each other strength
Jl 14 Jan 2011
Well, none of us can fix our lives and stop sinning
before we go to the lord. we are broken and helpless,
then we go to the lord in our sinful state and he works
the change in us. he saves us, forgives our sins,
changes us. love in jesus. jan-louis
Judith 14 Jan 2011
The old covenant brought awareness of sin, guilt and
condemnation. the purpose of this was to show mankind
that he needed a savior, that he was not capable of
keeping the law, yet the old covenant people rejected
that notion and sought their own righteousness which
led to their destruction in 70 ad. jesus satisfied the
requirements of the law for us
Judith 14 Jan 2011
All we have to do is exercise faith in his finished
work!! the only sin that will send you to hell is not
exercising faith! .. continued.....
Judith 14 Jan 2011
if you are still under condemation, you are under the
law and are not in faith. if you believe you are going
to hell for something you did then you do not believe
in your heart that jesus bought you out of slavery.
.... continued.....
Judith 14 Jan 2011
my salvation is in him, not in myself. if he loved us
enough to die for us while we were still sinners (over
2000) years ago, then why are still focused on self and
not him? abraham was declared righteous by faith over
400 yrs before the law was given...continued
Jl 14 Jan 2011
Yes, find a church, pray about it! ask the lord to show
you where to go, where you must take part. find a
church where you feel the humbleness! i have to go now.
:-) blessings and regards. jan-louis
Judith 14 Jan 2011
he believed god, plain and simple. either you believe
or you don't. if you don't, you don't have faith. we
are his friends, not bondservants, like the people
under the old covenant. .... continued....
Justin 14 Jan 2011
Have you guys watched tim conway preach on youtube. i
was just wondering what you though of his message and
Judith 14 Jan 2011
We have a new and better covenant where we can approach
the throne of grace with boldness, not with sacrifices,
and receive whatever we ask, not doubting. amen and
Justin 14 Jan 2011
i get what you are saying but it say to test ourselves
to be sure we are in the faith.

king james bible
"examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove
your own selves. know ye not your own selves, how that
jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?" 2 cor

Jl 14 Jan 2011
I agree, judith! but, peace with the lord, a clean
conscience, walking with him, and abundant life is so
very precious. why am i feeling so very bad when i walk
in sin? why am i feeling so very happy when i return to
the lord? i agree with you, judith! the lord jesus did
the finished work. hallelujah! he defeated death and
sin for us! he is the messiah! how wonderful is our
lord and god! love in jesus.
Justin 14 Jan 2011
Doesn't salvation produce works?
Judith 14 Jan 2011
doesn't salvation produce works?
when a person completely focuses on christ and his
work as a done deed, fulfilled, completed, finished,
then christ produces works in that person. man's works
always fails..just look at the previous posts. freedom
comes in knowing that you are secure in christ and that
when we fail we confess and are restored immediately.
Judith 14 Jan 2011
he cannot deny us and it is he that will keep us.
'without faith' it is impossible to please god.
blessed is the man who has faith without
+ nothing else produces righteousness...
Justin 14 Jan 2011
I understand we are saved by grace through faith. i am
just saying that if we fall into habitual sin does that
mean we are truly saved?

if we are saved we should still try to be a better
person. i know we cannot go to god on the day of
judgement and say, "look what i beat or look at the
things i have corrected."

didn't jesus say in king james bible
"be ye therefore perfect, even as your father which is
in heaven is perfect."
Judith 14 Jan 2011
Focus on the 'works' that christ did, not on what you
must do. the early christians were mainly jews that
had synagogues in every city and they could not
overcome the 'works' issue and tried to include
circumcision and other things, just like most of you
here. that is what is meant by 'examining yourself to
see if you are in christ.' faith in christ plus no
works will deliver a person from the curse of sin and
Judith 14 Jan 2011
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them
that are sanctified. (hebrews 10:14)

also see 1 corinthians 6:11 and acts 20:32, 26:18;
jude 1:1. only one conclusion is possible.

we are perfect before the father

Jl 15 Jan 2011
Hi justin and judith. just a few thoughts. the love of
the father, the mercy of the lord jesus, the fellowship
of the holy spirit. forgiveness. our great high pries,
jesus christ. faith, hope, love. the truth and the way
and the life. the light of the world. emmanuel, god
with us. here are some very precious verses. 1 john
1:7, 1 john 2:1-2, 1 john 3:19-24, psalm 32, john
15:1-17. please read these verses. god bless, brother
and sister. love in jesus. jan-louis
Lakisha 21 Jan 2011
im in a relationship with a guy who is a new believer
and we fornicate. i feel like im dieing inside and i
dont like what i am becoming. of course it is hard to
leave because i love him. just need a support group
with people my age who understand the struggle and
loneliness that often comes with having to choose gods
way even when it means you may have to let go of
someone you love.pray 4 gods enablement a strong
conviction in both of our hearts. thanks
Justin 22 Jan 2011

i will pray for you. i am not a saint either. i
repent but i still make some of the same mistakes.

perhaps you need to explain to him how you feel. if
he is a new believer than he should feel the same way
and should feel convicted too i believe. perhaps if
you say something to him it might remind him.


Lakisha 23 Jan 2011
I have told him. he also gets drunk alot and goes to
bars and clubs. im not judging him but thats something
that i know that i persoanlly cant deal with in a long
term relationshiop. the anxiety of wondering what hes
doing every time he goes out with friends drinking at a
bar is too much for me to handle. especially since he
puts himself in shady situations.
Jl 26 Jan 2011
Hi lakisha!

may lord jesus guide you. may he show you what to do.
i don't know if you do it, but open up to the lord
jesus completely. tell him everything. empty your heart
before him. philippians 4:4-9, hebrews 4:14-16, john
2:1-2. i will pray for you, sister lakisha! blessings
and regards. love in jesus.

Angel 26 Jan 2011
Last week i was rebaptised 30 years later as an
"adult". i have come back home...i feel i have a fresh
slate. i'm trying my best.

there is a video i'd like to share. i love the freshly
washed slate at the end.

go to youtube and type in
tenth avenue north you are more
Jl 30 Jan 2011
By walking in faith and obedience, we may count on the
holy spirit to do a divine and most blessed work in us.
if we live by the spirit, let us also walk in the
spirit. this is the obedience that god requires. by
faith in the holy spirit who is in us, we have
sufficient strength to walk by the spirit and yield
ourselves to his mighty power. then, he can work in us
to will and to do all that is pleasing in god's sight.
Jl 30 Jan 2011
That was a +-quote from andrew murray's book "the
spirit of christ"

blessings and regards, brothers and sisters!

love in jesus!
Jl 30 Jan 2011
Andrew murray's books was a very great blessing to me
in restoring my relationship with god.
Pete 31 Jan 2011
I'm struggling because even though i've been a
backslider for many years i thought jesus would always
“look out for me”. jesus allowed my wife to die at only
age 40. i took her to a doctor and he misdiagnosed her,
i found her dead 8 hours later, did cpr on her, begging
the lord for one heartbeat, he wouldn’t do it. she had
a brain aneurism. she was seeking jesus and reading a
lot of christian literature, but don't know if she got
saved. i’m mad at the lord now.
Justin 31 Jan 2011

you need to make the best of this situation you can.
only god and your wife know.

somethings we have no control over. i believe in the
bible it speak of family and friends being saved and
other relatives don't. pray to god to bring peace to
your heart about this. your wife was searching perhaps
she was saved and didn't know how to confront you about
your salvation.
Bill 01 Feb 2011
I feel a little guilty for asking this question when so
many on here are struggling with really terrible
situations…but i have a question to pose to anyone out
there that i have been struggling with. can anyone
really explain to me romans 9:18-23? what does this
really mean for us that struggle so much? should we be
afraid of god? and how can we be sure where we fit in
to that bible verse? i think it’s an important question
and one that most churches won’t address.
Judith 02 Feb 2011
Bill, you shouldn't feel guilty about asking a legit
question. i'm no expert but i do know that one must
always ask 'who, what, when, where,' before arriving at
a conclusion. verses and chapters were not the
original purpose. heck the entire nt wasn't even
around then. all they had was moses and the prophets
or law/prophets. so the bereans examined the
scriptures daily to see if the things paul taught were
Judith 02 Feb 2011
the jews(as referring to the israelites) and not only
the tribe of judah, which is the origin of 'jew.' had
been scattered all over the world at that time and had
temples in every city. they still adhered to the old
covenant laws, which they thought brought favor with
god. paul was trying to tell them they couldn't earn
salvation that it was totally dependent on god
sacrificing his son and faith in that finished work.
god gets all the glory, man get none.
Judith 02 Feb 2011
Somewhere in romans paul said, 'blessed is the man who
has faith but no works.' then and only then was christ
truly formed in them. the old covenant age ended in 70
ad. from moses till then the law reigned. before
then, abel, noah and abraham were all declared
righteous by faith w/o works. it was and has always
been by faith but god's chosen/elect people thought
they earned it by the law. hope this makes sense...
Bill 02 Feb 2011
Thank you judith for taking the time to answer and for
your kind words. i’m not sure if you understood my
question but basically in romans chapter 9 verses 18 to
23 it speaks about god deciding to make some for
salvation and some for destruction? it’s a really tough
section…and a frightening one. i really wish paul
didn’t make these statements…it makes one doubt if god
truly loves each and every individual. and if he
doesn’t…how can one ever be sure of that love?
thanks again judith.
Jl 09 Feb 2011
Hi pete!

i can think of a song (from bible verses, i do not
know which book/chapter/verses) of liberated wailing
wall: "abundant life yeshua (jesus) brings, through all
the ages we have seen, his thoughts are not our
thoughts, his ways are not our ways, so much higher his
plan for you and me. abundant life yeshua brings." and
i can think of ezekiel 18:21-23 and matthew 13:24-29.
god bless you, brother!
Eddy 02 Mar 2011
At i ask to pray for me people. all of you!!! that will
be soo nice and ill do pray back in favor. wow now i
understand... i'm soo ridiculous blindfolded. i was
thinking of what is causing me to turn away from god
and do the things i used to do. in fact i was soo
scared, and really weird that i checked this out today
when it has came out lol... itself as god told me to
come here and to show me my way out. amazing!!! i found
out i was just backsliding
Tracy 07 Mar 2011
It is amazing how good god is. i to was was not
following god 5 minutes ago and found this article as i
looked up how to get right with god and backsliding. i
still fell lost and confused but at least i know god
will help me through it all. i feel the joy coming
back just to know i am with the father and he loves me
so much.
Dean 07 Mar 2011
sure of what love? god made the ultimate sacrifice for
the whole world,his only son jesus christ.think about
what jesus went through. god could have took the cup,
but jesus is the only way for salvation.god has perfect
love and he proved it through jesus. bill i dont wan't
you to doubt, that will bring a destructive
relationship with god. peace be with you.
Bill 08 Mar 2011
Thanks dean!

peace with you also.
Cynthia 11 Mar 2011
I have been reading these comments. i have been a
christian for a long time but, from time to time i even
question my salvation. i have done many things that i
am ashamed of and would never judge anyone for mistakes
they make. someone once told me something that has
stuck with me thru the years and maybe this will help
someone who is in a relationship that is not pleasing
to god. 5 minutes of pleasure is not worth losing your
soul. god bless you all.
Judith 11 Mar 2011
Hi cynthia,

if you are questioning your salvation, then you have
put your trust in your ability to keep it and not in
jesus. he took care of the sin problem over 2000 years
ago. tell your doubts how big your god is when they
come creeping back. salvation is in him, not me....
Michael 14 Mar 2011

i've been a christian for over 30 years. 20 of these
i've been more often backslidden. i suffered the loss
of both parents in my late 20s. i'm been in a difficult
and unsatisfactory (sexually and emotionally) marriage
for over 20s years. i've committed all sorts of
habitual sexual sins, lied, and cheated, and been
publicly humiliated because of my sin, even though i've
been a respected officer in the church. i'm sick of who
i am and ashamed of myself. pray for me.
Lashonda 18 Mar 2011
I was a backslider for 2yrs. i went through so much
during my marriage. in the beginning i was praying and
believing god to help me. eventually i got tired of
praying and waiting on god so i went back to drinking,
then slowly i went back to drugs and cigs. i would cry
after drinking and smoking. yesterday i asked god to
forgive me because i can't take being apart from him
anymore. thank you for the article because i believe
god has forgiven me.
Carolina 08 Apr 2011
Im only 16 and ive been backsliding for over 5 years
now. i got saved when i was pretty young and have been
backsliding pretty much ever since. its unfortunate
because i couldve been so much happier and couldve been
so much wiser than i am now. i keep praying and asking
for forgiveness then going right back in sin. im really
ashamed and need prayer.
Judith 09 Apr 2011
Hi carolina,

i was the same way for many years until someone showed
me that jesus died for my sins over 2000 yrs ago. it's
a done deal. salvation is in him, not me. i hope you
can place your trust in him, christ jesus, so you can
be set free from condemnation. once you have a clear
conscious you will never want to go back there again.
love and prayers.
Emily 18 Apr 2011
I rededicated my life on march 24,2011 he is calling
the backsliders home because he's about to come back!
my heart grew cold for the things of the kingdom. i
never thought it would happen to me. but god is raising
me back up!! a righteous falls 7 times, but he gets
back up!! we are made righteous through the blood of
jesus...we have been sealed and a covenant god made
through us when we first beleived. he will leave the
99 sheep to get the one that wondered away!
Bill 18 Apr 2011
Bless you emily!
may god walk close with you and you with him.
thank you for your encouraging words!
Steven 02 May 2011
God bless to all! 1jon 1:9 he's faithful and just to
forgive and cleanse, if we confess. jon 3:16 for god so
loved the world, he gave his only son. one of my many
favorites i lost count when i backslid, around 12 yrs
ago. lay off the reefer man. glory be to god,
Terry 08 May 2011
I am 61 years old and repented in 1974. served the
lord 5 years and backslid and then the lord drew me
back for 15 years and now been backslid for 2 years. i
repent and still can't find peace with the lord. i get
mad when things go wrong and blame the lord. i don't
want to be like this. how can i get back? seems like
nothing works. thanks
Pete 09 May 2011
Hey terry, i don't know the answer but i'm in the same
boat as you. if you read my earlier posts you'll know
why i'm bitter and mad at the lord, but there isn't
anything i can do. i only ask the lord to have mercy on
me and my wife's soul so that we might have peace
happiness in the next life! maybe i'll go speak with a
christian counselor but not in a church, sorry, i find
a lot of them are judgmental. god already judge me by
taking my wife, i'm looking for peace, love and
Terry 10 May 2011
Thanks pete for your post. everytime i pray and try
to get back to the lord nothing happens and i just feel
worse. i was backslid once for 15 years and the lord
drew me back to himself. maby we just have to try to
do the best we can and let the lord draw us back on his
own time. sorry to hear about your wife. it is easy
to get hard hearted when it seems like all efforts are
in vain. i have to take medication for the fear and
Pete 11 May 2011
Terry, funny you mentioned meds for anxiety, i'm on the
same stuff. guess years of sin broke our bodies and
spirit. maybe gone are the days of being on fire for
jesus, high on the holy spirit. maybe we have to regain
the lord's trust. maybe he can still use us. i know the
end-of-days are near. you ever check out hal lindsey?
also check out wayne monbleau at he
is a true man of god who prayed for me, sent me a
condolence card concerning my wife and never asked me
for a dime
Terry 12 May 2011
Pete, here is something that got me back to the lord in
1974. i was rebaptized in the name of jesus christ
according to acts 2:38. you can find a church that
baptizes in the name of jesus christ instead of the
titles of father, son and holy ghost at these are called message churches.
god bless
Terry 12 May 2011
Pete, i went to the website you told me about. i have
something i want you to watch. go to and
type in william branham and watch the third and forth
videos down on the list. watch them all the way
through. i know this is the seventh church age
messenger who has the spirit of elijah and is the
forerunner to the second coming of christ. we can pray
for each other and agree that god will have mercy on
both of us.
Judith 12 May 2011
Terry and pete, rev 3:5 says that it is utterly
impossible (with a double negative) to have one's name
erased from the book of life. on that premise, do you
understand what it means to 'put your trust and faith
in the finished work of christ jesus?'
Judith 12 May 2011
It is finished! he paid the price, we put out faith in
him. then we are transformed by renewing our minds
daily with the word. it is the sword of the spirt that
defeats wrong thoughts that lead to wrong actions.
first put on the helmet of salvation (guarding the
mind, bringing every thought into subjection to christ)
then the breastplate of salvation, etc. we are in a
battle but god has given us the weapons we need to
successfully defeat the spiritual enemies.
Terry 13 May 2011
Dear judith, thanks for your post. thanks for
reminding me about the helmet of salvation. i have a
hard time reading the bible because it seems like i
apply what will happen to the wicked to myself. i will
have to put my helmet back on when i read it. thanks
Bill 26 May 2011
Hello everyone...
this is certainly a great site for christians who
struggle. i usually find myself hiding my struggles
when at church...but here i think we all can be a
little more open with one another. i think this site
can be an avenue to support one another...anyone agree?
god bless...
Terry 26 May 2011
You are right. i have read a lot of things in this web
site that has helped me. i am still having a hard
time, but still trying to keep my faith in the lord.
i'm not where i want to be with the lord, but hope this
will pass. i got the joy of the lord back at one time
after being backslid for fifteen years. looking for
that joy and strength again.
Bill 26 May 2011
Well...hang in there terry...
stay close with god and talk to him often. he hears
god bless...
Kathie 14 Jun 2011
God put the perfect book in my path several months
before i returned to god, and this book was the big
stepping stone that helped me: when godly peoploe do
ungodly things - by beth moore. people sometimes leave
god because of buried pain and she has immense sympathy
for those people. backsliders need this book
Terry 15 Jun 2011
thanks for the information about the book that helped
you. i will try to find it.
Bonnie 02 Jul 2011
I too did not realize this was written today when i
have been in torment all day whether god would have me
back. i googled backslidden christian and there it
was. glory be to god...he is so awesome i know i don't
deserve his great love.

i know what to do now...pray, pray, pray!
Terry 02 Jul 2011
God bless you bonnie. remember me in prayer and i will
remember you. here is something that will help you.
go to and type in william branham. watch
videos on left from the third one down to the ninth one
god bless
Zoe 29 Jul 2011
Can i just say that i struggled with hebrews and asked
my dad about it. he made it very clear to me that god
is specifically talking to the jews in hebrews who were
going back to the old law that jesus had told us doesnt
count. hebrews was saying that if the jews feel the law
is more important than faith in jesus they are
effectively crusifying jesus all over again and this
cannot be forgiven. effectively it's blasphemy. once we
are saved we are saved, but we dont want to be at the
back of the line in heaven with our heads hung low. we
want to walk in bodly! :)
Terry 29 Jul 2011
Dear zoe,
i served the lord for years and i don't know what
happen. i try to pray and get back to him and nothing
works. just in bondage again. when i try to get back
to him i just feel worse. just can't find his peace
anymore. i can't explain how awful this is. i want to
be back with the lord, but it seems like he won't take
me back. please pray for me. thanks and god bless you
Zoe 29 Jul 2011
Terry. it's easy to tell ourselves that we are not
worthy of god's forgiveness or love. this however is
what satan tells us, and not what god tells us. god
says 'i will never leave you or forsake you'. if we
didn't sin and disappoint god there would have been no
reason for jesus to have died for us. jesus talks about
bringing back the lost sheep. he rejoices when someone
who has strayed returns to them. don't doubt that jesus
loves you! get rid of your doubt and surround yourself
with god's word, with prayer, with christian music,
with christian people and trust that god has a plan for
you. it's your doubt that is getting in the way.
rejoice in that you belong to god!!! you do!! as long
as you have accepted that jesus died for you and asked
him in your life you are saved because you believe.
thats amazing!! now all u need to do is get your shoes
on and walk for christ! don't stop praying! get rid of
your guilt and your doubt and know that you are his.
god bless x
Terry 29 Jul 2011
Dear zoe,
thanks for your encouraging words. i will do what you
said. seeing that i will be praying, i will remember
you in my prayers. i thank you for what you wrote to
me. it is the first sign of hope i have had in a long
time. i guess it is just time for me to get down to
buisness with the lord. god bless you and thanks
Zoe 29 Jul 2011
Thanks terry! you will be in my prayers too :) i'm just
starting my new life with god too after a long time of
being back slidden. but god used my troubled times and
called me back to him and showed me that i need him and
that i will never be happy if i go my own way. i'm
excited, this is my new journey! god bless you too!!
Gaeann 31 Jul 2011
thank god for your understanding of his word and
relaying it to us. i too had a problem with hebrews and
the writings on god not forgiving backsliders and this
has caused me a fear i knew wasn't from god. thank you
for your explanation.
Gary 14 Aug 2011
I was amazed to see so many people in the same or
similar situation as myself, i have been backslid for
most of the lat 25 yrs, the slide down the slippery
slope bagan with a soured engagement and resenment that
lead me back to booze and perversion and
Gary 14 Aug 2011
........into and ungodly marraige that helped bury me
so deep in bondage that i have still not escaped, booze
porn and promiscuity thay are like a demon tag team
that continually pummels you into submission.
Zoe 14 Aug 2011
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall
find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

jesus doesnt expect you to do it on your own!! he
understands, and he still loves you but you need to
trust him, thank him and pray pray pray. surround
yourself with his word, music, videos. change what your
spirit is feeding on!! and god will give you strength
to over come any sin, it's only hard now because all
youre feeding on is earthly stuff, and avoiding god!
you have to do the opposite. if you struggle or mess
up, pray. dont feel like you can't pray you must!
remember the parable of the lost son in luke:15. the
father celebrated when his rebelious son returned to
him. don't let satan tell u anything different.
Zoe 14 Aug 2011
I would also absoloutely reccoment ucb uk radio. you
can get it on most modern radios these days. it really
helped me, particully at the times where i was
sometimes struggling with reading the bible. it helped
me get my excitement back over following jesus again :)
Zoe 14 Aug 2011
Ps. sorry about my awful spelling! didnt realise until
i'd posted it and don't know how i got it so wrong
either. haha!
Terry 15 Aug 2011
Dear zoe,
thanks for all you told me. now if i can just put it
to work without getting distracted. still just feel
like when i try to read the word anymore it condems me.
i will try to listen to spiritual music today. there
is some good spiritual music from a church in trinidad,
sa. it is at favorite songs
there are, thank you lord and god's elective love. god
Carey 18 Oct 2011
God bless you all i have read all your comments and are
so encouraged. i have just returned to the lord after
been backsliden for 10 years..i have beenn weeping so
much lately of my backslidin time n sin ...i have
repented but still struggle with memories n guilt....i
think about the saviour leaving the flock to go look
for the 1 lost sheep to bring him home ..our god luvs
us that much ...bless you all
Liz 27 Oct 2011
I have been under demonic oppression for 4 and a half
years now. i can see the enemy in my mind's eye. last
month i woke up with rage all over me - wanting to kill
my daughter. i admitted myself into the hospital and
was there 2 weeks. now i'm on all kinds of meds. i've
also lost my job. i have had hate in my heart for my
daughter and husband due to her autism, and both of
resistance to me in doing what's right. i am in a
stronghold! the enemy steals the word from me at night
while i'm sleeping. i want to and need to come back to
the lord but i do not have any conviction/remorse about
i am just extremely tired of the fight and so close to
turning completely away from the lord to the devil.
please pray for me.
Terry 28 Oct 2011
I will pray for you, but i am in the same shape. i
even had two men from where i went to church come and
pray for me, but still stayed in the same shape. i
have been away from the lord now for around three years
and also been in hospitals and on medication. i live
in fear everyday so i don't have the answer. sorry
Liz 28 Oct 2011
did you get the book by beth moore, when godly people
do ungodly things? i was just wondering if it helped
you at all.
Bill 28 Oct 2011

i'm a bad example of a christian, but i prayed for you
anyway. you're not alone in your struggles.

god bless...
Terry 29 Oct 2011
no i didn't get the book. i will try to locate it
again with a google search. thanks for praying for me.
i need deliverance. even in my dreams i am away from
the lord and wake up scared. this fear taked all my
energy away. i will remember you in prayer also.
Liz 29 Oct 2011
Bill and terry,
i found a website that may help you:
9chapter4.htm - anything by watchman nee is deep.
i also found another website with many articles to
help you in your walk:
it is good to know how the enemy works and be on
guard, however i'm noticing that i need to turn my
attention away from him and put it on christ and his
love for me.
i prayed for you both: that the annointing of the holy
spirit will break every yoke of bondage you are under
bringing about freedom in your mind, will and emotions.
jesus went through longsuffering and he is walking
beside you in all of this. just know he loves you and
will never let you go. a suggestion from a minister
friend of mine: read the psalms slowly looking at it
through the eyes of love and grace towards you and let
jesus love on you.

Terry 29 Oct 2011
Thanks liz i will look at the websites. and thanks for
praying for me and bill. i only pray when i lay down
to go to sleep that god won't let me die. i will
remember you in prayer tonight. thanks again for
remembering me and praying for me for god to set my
mind, will and emotions free. i need that sooo bad.
god bless you
Liz 29 Oct 2011
i found another excellent website for you to look
number 5 and number 6 are excellent.
call a local spirit filled church (assembly of god,
non-denominational, etc) and ask if they know of any
deliverance ministries in your area. sometimes you
cannot fight this on your own and need outside help.
those ministries do not charge anything to help you.
let me know what you find out, okay?
jesus loves us and wants us free. we will get free of
these demons! praying for you- liz
Terry 30 Oct 2011
Dear liz,
i will look up the websites. don't know any
deliverance ministers, but can ask around and see if i
can find one. i feel condemnation over something i
done. i loaned a dvd to a brother and he wouldn't give
it back and i ask him for it back and he said he didn't
know where it was. i got mad and sent the people he
works for a letter accusing him of being a thief. i
knew i done wrong and tried to get the letter back
before it got to their address, but post office said i
couldn't because it didn't have a return address.
haven't felt the lord since then three years ago.
Liz 30 Oct 2011
yours is a simple issue. try to apologize to the
people at his place of employment and also try and
apologize to the person you got mad at. once you have
done all you can do to humble yourself and do the right
thing, (even if they do not/or cannot accept your
apology, then forgive yourself
and receive god's forgiveness. thant's it. you will be
three years is three years too long to be under
condemnation. jesus wants you free and the devil has
succeeded in keeping you in bondage. accept god's
forgiveness and don't look back.
Zoe 30 Oct 2011
Right, the problem you all have is that you are telling
yourselves you are not worthy of belonging to jesus.
you are not sinners. you are already the riteousness of
christ jesus. god has already paid the price for your
sins through jesus. as for feeling bitterness and anger
and rage and mental health issues. satan is attacking
you when you are weak. where is your faith?! rebuke
your illnesses, depression, anger and doubt in the name
of jesus, repent of your doubt and anger and do not
stop reading your bibles. expect attack from satan,
because it's when youre not being attacked you should
be worried. satan attacks those who he fears are strong
in the lord!! don't hold back from guilt thats the
worst thing you can do. jesus loves you!! reach out to
him!!! god bless you :)x
Terry 31 Oct 2011
Dear liz and zoe,
i think you both for your concern and prayers. i will
do what both of you said. i know i can't stay in this
shape. i been listening to a song called i will
restore at and it seems to go along
with where i am. also like the song there called thank
you lord and god's elective love. god bless you both.
Bill 31 Oct 2011
Hi liz,

i just wanted to let you know i checked out one of the
sites you recommended, i think it's
a great site and the little bit i've read of it so far
i found to be really helpful.
thank you liz! god bless you.
Liz 31 Oct 2011
praise god! i am so glad i could be of some help to
god bless you, too!
Christopher 27 Nov 2011
I have severe depression, and in agony almost to the
point of losing my sanity over my failures. i just cant
seem to accept god's love because i can't love myself.
i am backslidden and sometimes i wonder if i was ever
saved. i feel like i wasn't meant to survive and my
backsliding only strengthens that. i'm tired of crying
over sin only to fall back into it. please pray for
me...signed, at the end of my rope.
Terry 27 Nov 2011
Dear christopher,
her is what got me back to the lord one time. repent
again and find a church in your area that baptizes in
the name of jesus christ instead of the titles of
father, son and holy ghoist and get rebaptized in the
name of jesus christ according to acts 2:38. jesus gave
peter the keys to the kingdom and acts 2:38 is what god
said through peter to do to receive salvation. type in
william branham at and watch as many videos
you can.
Liz 27 Nov 2011
get this book: victory in spiritual warfare by tony
i have suffered from depression and thought i was
going to lose my mind. this book is so sound and will
bring peace to your soul. all the father asks is that
you believe jesus - not religion. jesus himself is the
Bill 03 Dec 2011
Hi christopher,
i’m a perpetual backslider myself…so i understand to
some extent your struggle. but hang in there chris.
remember how gentle jesus dealt with the sinners…but
harsh with the “religious” of the day. it may not feel
like it…but jesus loves you…and desires to be gentle
with you too. we usually give up on ourselves long
before god ever gives up on us. and don’t underestimate
the psychological games satan will play with your mind.
i have followed liz’s reading recommendation in the
past…and it’s been very helpful. i would recommend
reading what she suggests. god bless you christopher…i
pray god to strengthen you…and help you to see his love
and passion for you.
Christopher 03 Dec 2011
Thank you so much for the encouraging words! you don't
know how much it helps!
Bill 09 Dec 2011
Hello chris and liz…
as a fellow believer…i just wanted to check in and say
hi to you guys and see how things are going? for
myself…i’m walking and trying to grow…one day at a
time. how are you guys doing?
Zoe 09 Dec 2011
Awsome! i'm growing each day! i'm learning every day
and learning so much about gods mercy. the most
important thing is being sure that god loves us. and
applying love in everything we do. i'm trying to read
my bible every day and not just read it but study it
with other books now. fun christian books remind me
gods got a sense of humour. christian tapes and radio
when i'm feeling weak. i really have found god speaks
to me on there when i'm falling away from my bible. its
a constant battle but its the best battle in the world!
satan get behind me in the name of jesus. i got my war
boots on. you won't win cos you've already been
defeated by the blood of jesus. this is the attitude we
must all have. every day is a new day. don't let satan
tell you different. satan doesn't want you to think
you're on a journey he wants you to think you've fallen
are stuck are not worthy. you already have authority
over all things. realise it. god bless guys. i'm still
trecking x
Christopher 09 Dec 2011
Thank you for caring bill. its one day at a time. god
is soooooooooooooooo good!i am blessed! i thank god
that he is who he is! we are so fortunate to have the
love of god!! just a friendly reminder: stewardship is
a key of growth. the more we concentrate on the needs
of others, the closer we get to god.
Liz 10 Dec 2011
i have been struggling with anxiety since sunday.i am
still trying to nail it down. i found a great book by
joyce meyer titled "straight talk". it appears to have
the answer i'm looking for. the book is help and
encouragement to combat depression, discouragement,
fear, insecurity, loneliness, stress and worry. i am
diving in to it now.
Christina 03 May 2012
I have struggled as a backslider for some time now.
everything seems senseless to me at the moment perhaps
because i have been struggling with problems and feel
that when is god going to give me a turn to have
something go right for me for a change. its like the
wicked are getting blessed and the good are suffering
all the time and i get so angry about it. i want god to
be real to me.... not a fuzzy memory...
Liz 03 May 2012
what has happened is you have lost your first love.
you can rekindle the love you once had by getting the
focus off of yourself and your problems. spend time in
worship where your mind is totally focused on the lord.
if you don't have a church get in one that believes
the bible and moves in the gifts of the holy spirit.
also i recommend a book by beth moore entitled,
"praying god's word". i believe the combination of
these three things will get you back on track. god
bless you.
Getrude 03 Aug 2012
Guys help ..finding it hard to read my bible at all ,
and pray ,have been a christian for a long time , serve
in a local church, even a leader in my church.i watch
and listen to gospel channels only and love god, but i
just cant seem to find time with my bible and pray as i
ought to ,i am worried and unhappy about this please
Bill 08 Aug 2012
Hey getrude...
please explain what is troubling you? is it a time
issue or a relationship issue?
Getrude 08 Aug 2012
Hie bill , i guese its time management issue, just pray
the lord gives me strength to balance my activities (am
a working mom and wife ) so i can have enough personal
time with the lord , or could it mean i`m slowly
backsliding ...
Terry 08 Aug 2012
Hello, i think where people get in trouble is when they
first repent god delivers you from a lot of things and
you are on fire for the lord. you have found that
pearl of great price and throw away everything to serve
him. then over time the devil knowing your weakness
slowly brings things you were delivered from back into
your life. it can be so subtle that you don't even
realize it. satan wants you to be a seed that grows up
among thorns and gets chocked out. then you lose your
first love for the lord and start to cool off and
before you know it satan has you too busy or just
enjoying some worldly things and you start to lose your
desire to read and pray and serve the lord like you
want. the lord isn't gone, but he will let you have
the desires of your heart because he has given you a
free will. use your free will to dig up those things
the devil has put back on you.
Getrude 08 Aug 2012
Thanks terry , now i see whats going on . thanks you
are right , i will do exactly that . god bless you
Terry 17 Aug 2012
Getrude, hope you are doing better. i know it is hard
to get rid of those things the devil has put back on
you. when people get off the main path they follow a
path that comes to an end. they can't go back in time
to get back on the right path. you have to go through
the weeds and stickers to get back. satan will remind
you about the things you done wrong and try to condemn
you. just keep your helment of salvation on and don't
listen to his lies he puts in your mind where the
battle is. remember, jesus said i will never leave you
or forsake you. keep your thoughts and mind on him.
he will restore the rest in your soul and mind and give
you faith. if you fall getting back on the path just
get up and continue until you are back on the right
path and you will then know jesus is leading you
everyday. jesus breaks every fetter. god bless!
Getrude 20 Aug 2012
Yu know terry , its been much better. god answered my
prayer of wanting him to rekindle the fire in again .
thank you for your post ,you might not know it but god
used you to minister something in ma spirit , like the
bible says the word of god is spirit and alive .just
one word can revive someone who was thinking there is
no more hope. lets keep encouraging each other all
around us as we run this race.
Getrude 20 Aug 2012
Guys another thing ,lets pray for the body of christ at
large , so much attacks on the church ,the devil knows
if we are united we can do anything ,lets pray for
unity in the body of christ
Terry 20 Aug 2012
Thinks for your encourging words. i think sometimes
the devil tries to get out minds on what people are
doing. we know sin will grow worse here in the end
times until the cup of inquity is full. just be like
those three monkeys, see no evil, hear no evil and
speak no evil. don't let anything get between you and
jesus christ. keep your mind on him and where we are
going and not on the things of the earth. jesus is
comming soon and his bride has made herself ready.
Elle 20 Dec 2012
I've also been backsliding many, many times.. it
somehow makes me guilty of whether god will still
forgive me because i repeatedly sin against him.. and
sometimes, i sin despite knowing that god's heart will
be broken. i always seem to forget the good things that
god has done for me. now, i wanted to ask god's
forgiveness again, but what i think i need is for me to
forgive myself and believe that god loves me even
though i break his heart many many times. help me grow
as a christian.
Terry 20 Dec 2012
Elle, what got me back to the lord one time was getting
rebaptized in the name of jesus christ. peter who had
the keys to the kingdom said in acts 2:38 to be
baptized in the name of jesus christ. matt. 28:19
jesus told his deciples to baptize in the name of the
father, son and holy ghost. then 10 days later they
ask peter what to do to be saved. peter told them to
be baptized in the name of jesus christ. why didn't he
say father, son and holy ghost? because he had the
revelation of who the father , son and holy ghost is,
the lord jesus christ. you can find a church that
baptizes in the name of jesus christ at
god bless!
Chris 27 Dec 2012
I have backslidden many times and the last time got so
bad that i rationalized my sin and felt like there was
nothing wrong with it and i didn't need a savior...the
gospel became "foolishness to me". i denounced my
faith to family and friends claimed to be agnostic and
argued that i could not believe in a god that would
send people to hell. just over the past two weeks i
have been convicted of my arrogance and sin and am
pursuing the savior jesus but i fear that it is of my
flesh and not his spirit...i am praying that god will
lead me down the path of true repentance but am often
frightened that hebrews 6 and 10 mean that i will only
have judgment to look forward to.
Terry 27 Dec 2012
Chris, just repent again and find a church that
baptizes in the name of jesus christ instead of the
titles of father, son and holy ghost and get rebaptized
in the name of jesus christ. go to vog recordings at and find a church in your area that
baptizes according to acts 2:38. also go to
and type in william branham and watch some videos of
god's end time prophet to the gentiles who has the
spirit of elijah. god will take you back because he
wouldn't have called you in the first place if he
didn't have a purpose for your life. acts 2:38 is
god's provided route to himself. you have to do all
three parts of that verse.
Bill 29 Dec 2012
i have also struggled with hebrews 6 and 10 more than
i can tell you. i also can tell you that i had a great
christian friend tell me that god's bark is worse than
his bite. may be hard for you to get this
right now...but god wants you more than you want him.
just remember, satan is hard at work on you...just like
the rest of us.
hange in there chris...
Sami 14 Feb 2013
Guys i really need help. i kept backsliding and turning
back to my sins, then 2 years ago i started getting
haunted by hebrews 6 and 10. i believe that god has
shut the door on me and im going to hell with no way
out. satan has done terrible things to me and im in and
out of hospitals. im addicted to drugs, adultery, and
idoltery and i never stop sinning even though i have
knowledge of the truth. god no longer answers my
prayers and i feel like im under a terrible curse.
please help!
Getrude 15 Feb 2013
Hi sami,
its not too late , the first thing you need to
understand is god loved us even before we knew him .rom
5 vs 8
the devil is lying to you god does not condem you his
mercy endures for ever psalm 100vs 5 .god does not hate
you ,he hates the sin in you , and you are not the sin
you commit.the devil is the one who condems you , great
man of god in the bible sinned david commited murder
adultary etc , but still god said he is a man after my
heart , if you do wrong things to your natural father
does it mean you cease to be your father child , no the
same with god ,he is our father foerever, all you have
to do first is deal with the condenmation spirit by
knowing that nothing can separate you from the love of
god . to continue
Getrude 15 Feb 2013
To sami

second repent and ask your father god for forgiveness
he is faithfull to forgive us 1 john 1vs 9 .you also
need support of a good spiritual leader who will pray
for you for restoration and to break the power of satan
over your life . its not too late , you can over come
it , change your environment ,to avoid being hooked
again into those things ,it could mean avoid your
friends and places you hang out until you strong enough
to resist all the temptation , flee from whatever can
link you ,wrong music ,movies friends etc , keep your
self busy with things that encourage you for go ,church
meetings ,christian music ,etc. i will pray for you its
not too late as long as you are still breathing .

sister in christ

Bill 15 Feb 2013
Hi sami,

i totally agree with getrude. she is spot on.

sami...a lot of us have been there and have been
through those scary verses. but as getrude stated, god
loves you more than you can imagine. those terrible
feelings you have are not from god...they are from
satan. follow what getrude stated...and keep praying
and keep your eyes on him. you may have failures but he
won't give up on you.
bless you sami...we will pray with you.
Terry 15 Feb 2013
Dear sami, listen carefully. god hasn't left you or he
wouldn't have called you in the first place. here is
what to do. repent again and then get rebaptized in
the name of jesus christ according to acts 2:38. you
can find a church in your area by going to once you are rebaptized in the name
of jesus christ instead of the titles of father, son
and holy ghost god's spirit will deliver you and break
your fetters. after that go to and
type william branham in the search and watch as many
videos you can. when you do what the word says then
you receive what the word says and acts 2:38 says after
you repent and are baptized in the name of jesus christ
you shall receive the gift of the holy ghost. got
Terry 15 Feb 2013
Dear gertrude, i just read your post again you wrote to
me on aug. 20, 2012. when i was reading it god's
spirit came all over me. i am still feeling it and
it's hard to write this with the tears in my eyes. i
can't tell you how much i appreciate you for letting
god use you. i love you in jesus christ and will
remember you in prayer. god bless you my precious
Christopher 16 Feb 2013
Sami, all of your sins, past, present and future, are
already paid for; all you have to do is receive it!
also, if you are born again, you are a new creature;
all you have to do is believe it and walk in it. a
sinner is a sinner in nature first, and commits sins as
a result of being a sinner by nature. you are a new
creature, made righteous by god; believe it and walk in
it. it is christ living in you that enables you to live
a clean life; this does not occur because of your
will-power! that's the whole point; christ paid the
price for the sinner's sin, remakes him into a
righteous person thru adoption, then empowers him to
live righteously.
Christopher 16 Feb 2013
Remember romans 4:2-3 "for if abraham were justified by
works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before god.
for what saith the scripture? abraham believed god, and
it was counted unto him for righteousness" was
abraham's belief in god that made him righteous, not
his works. abraham performed righteous acts because he
believed that god made him righteous. we cannot justify
our salvation by our works; that's religion! it is
christ who justifies! believe that you are righteous
then walk in it!
Christopher 16 Feb 2013
The devil is a liar! god loves you and has proven it by
not sparing his son! do you think your accumulative
sins are greater than the blood of christ? his blood is
overpayment for the combined sins of the world!!! pray
to him, repent and ask for his forgiveness, then walk
in it! god bless you!
Christopher 16 Feb 2013
If you cover a pig with feathers and teach it to sing,
it still wont be a canary; as soon as it sees mud, it
will jump in because it is a pig. to be a canary, the
pig must die and be reborn as a canary. if it is reborn
as a canary, but still believes it is a pig, it will
act like a pig, even though it is a canary. so it is
with sinner and saint.
Christopher 16 Feb 2013
Once the canary accepts and believes it was reborn as a
canary, it will no longer act out as a pig. believe and
know that you are a new creature in christ, justified
by his blood and you will find that sin no longer has
power over you. walk in it, not in your strength, but
in his..
Sami 17 Feb 2013
Well i know im on my way to hell, and everytime i try
to repent, satan oppresses me even worst and i dont
feel like im being helped. i just feel abandoned by
god. this has been going on for 2 years now. i have
more evidence that i cant be saved then i can be saved.
it seems like god is angry with me all the time because
ever since ive became a believer (8 years ago) ive been
disobedient and continue to sin.
Liz 17 Feb 2013
Sami, put yourself in the right surroundings. are you
in a bible believing church that beliebes in the
infilling of the holy spirit? remember the battle is in
the mind and youre feeling like youve lost your
salvation because of the lies satan is putting in your
mind. a mind stayed on god is a peaceful mind. get in
church and go to evetything they offer. you need a
total lifestyle change to help yourself.
Bill 17 Feb 2013
Hi sami,
i know you're going through a difficult struggle right
now. but please remember a couple of things. first, god
said he is faithful to forgive you when you (1john 1:9). don't trust
yourself or satan...but trust god's promise. and you
can hold god to it. second, god's attitude toward you
is the same as his attitude toward the prodigal son.
read luke 15:11-24. read over and over and over until
it really sinks in. remember sami, there will be more
joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over
ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance. god
bless you.
Christopher 17 Feb 2013
Sami, god called gideon "a mighty man of valor" when he
was hiding from the midians; he believed god instead of
his circumstances and became a mighty man of valor!
don't believe the lies of the devil, your actions, your
emotions or god!
Christopher 17 Feb 2013
Solomon under the shadow of the holy spirit, wrote in
proverbs, "as a man thinketh, so is he"..if you believe
you're doomed, you are. you must trust god; his power,
his love and mercy are infinitely greater than your
Christopher 17 Feb 2013
Sami, when god told abraham he was going to have a son,
abraham trusted in god's word (that god was willing and
able to accomplish what he said he would)instead of his
old, useless body, and he fathered a son! the tree that
is planted by living water bears fruit! you were dead
in sins before; he has quickened you unto life eternal!
believe it!
Gary 17 Feb 2013
Sami dont give up the horrible feeling you have are
tools that the enemy uses to get you to say in your
heart, i might as well keep on sinning since i'm lost
anyway, dare to believe that you free and try to use
your faith to stand against the feeling (lies) that the
enemy uses to try and destroy you.
Getrude 18 Feb 2013
Thank you so much every body for yr responses to sister
sami .terry my brother , i cant begin to say, god used
you and brother bill at a time when i felt so lost ,
and you know since that time you ministered to me
august 2012 the fire was rekindled . so guys lets not
stop encouraging each other, for all this we are doing
is working i am a testimony to it. god bless you all
and keep you . love your sister in christ
Sami 18 Feb 2013
Thank you guys for the help. does anyone know of any
sermons, websites or teachings about backsliding like
this one? anything that can help me believe that i can
still be forgiven and that god will accept me back?
Christopher 19 Feb 2013 is the world renown pastor
david wilkerson's (author of the "cross and the
switchblade")church! full of sermons covering every
conceivable issue! these are holy spirit filled
ministers speaking from god's heart to you! god bless
Getrude 19 Feb 2013
Hi sami , christopher i have listned to david wilkerson
sermons and have been encouraged .the web adress i have
to listen to some of his sermons is
Christopher 19 Feb 2013
Great! as elijah's mantle was passed on to elisha, so
has david wilkerson's (who went home to be with the
lord) been passed on to pastor carter conlon. check out
the website and download to your heart's content! you
wont be sorry!
Terry 19 Feb 2013
Hello, david wilkerson was a good preacher, but he
preached before baptism in the name of jesus christ was
restored by god's prophet william branham. there are
only seven church age messengers and paul was the first
one and william branham is the seventh one. william
branham has the spirit of elijah which god uses five
times. he also fulfiled rev. 10:7 and malachi 4:5 and
6. you can listen to what god spoke through him at you can also watch videos of him by
typing william branham in search at john
who had the spirit of elijah fulfils the part of
malachi 6 that turns the hearts of the fathers to the
children and bro. branham fulfils the part that turns
the hearts of the children to their fathers. where
paul taught baptism in the name of jesus christ william
branham taught the same.
Terry 19 Feb 2013
Sami, i already told you what to do to get back with
the lord. did you find a church that baptizes in the
name of jesus christ and get rebaptized? do you really
want to get back to the lord? remember everybody in
the bible was baptized in the name of jesus christ and
not the titles of father, son and holy ghost. those
are titles of the name. the name of the father, son
and holy ghost is the lord jesus christ and peter who
has the keys to the kingdom had that revelation and
that is why he said to be baptized in the name of jesus
christ in acts 2:38. repent again and do this second
part of acts 2:38 and god will do the third part and
give you the gift of the holy ghost. don't let satan
rob you of this truth. just act upon acts 2:38 and you
will receive the results of what that verse says.
Terry 19 Feb 2013
You can go to voice of god recordings at
from there you can get two books. one is an exposition
of the seven church ages and the other one is the
revelation of the seven seals. the revelation of the
seven church ages explains how the gentile dispenstion
which is 2000 years is divided into seven church ages.
each church age had a church age messenger. the seven
seals book explains how satan comes against the church
with a white, red, black and pale horse and how god
raised up a messenger to each church age to come
against what satan has done and will do. that is why
god raised up his prophet william branham here in the
last church age to call out his bride from these
churches that use a false baptism. the churches that
baptize in the titles of father, son and holy ghost are
the foolish virgins. those that hear what god spoke
through his prophet will get rebaptized in the name of
jesus christ and they are the wise virgins.
Christopher 19 Feb 2013
One should be cautious about any person who designates
himself a "special" messenger from god, and we should
be careful not to deify or reward accolades to any
person. god alone is worthy of praise, not man; we are
merely vessels. the ax cannot boast itself against the
hewer. i suggested a pastor to sami but that pastor is
also merely a vessel, as was elijah..
Christopher 19 Feb 2013
The point here is to convince sami that even sin cannot
separate one from the love of god, for god sent his
beloved son to die for us while we were sinners! there
is no formula for salvation that involves human input.
sami needs to repent, read the bible daily, meditate on
god's word daily, pray ceaselessly, obey and examine
the heart; we must choose god! return to god with all
your heart and he will cleanse you of all sins..
Terry 19 Feb 2013
God has a fivefold ministry which includes prophets.
there is only one prophet sent to the gentiles here in
the last church age who is william branham. he has the
spirit of elijah and the only ministry to pull the
bride out of these denominational churches that stay
with the mother harlot's false baptism in titles of
father, son and holy ghost instead of the name of jesus
christ. god raised five men from the dead through his
prophet. william branham is a vindicated prophet.
what god done through him we don't give bro. branham
the credit, but we give credit to jesus christ who was
in bro branham doing the works that was done. it was
god speaking through his prophet william branham.
there is only one seventh church age messenger and that
is william branham. there won't be another.
Terry 19 Feb 2013
There are many false prophets in the world and many
religions. there is only one truth which is the lord
jesus christ and only one true prophet to this
laodecian (last) church age who is william branham. we
don't treat his office anymore then the first church
age messenger paul. the word always comes to the
prophets and god always uses one prophet at a time.
brother branham is the only prophet that fulfils rev.
10:7, but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel
(earthly messenger) when he shall began to sound the
mystery of god should be finished as he hath declared
to his servents the prophets. one god and one prophet
to this age. hear ye him.
Terry 19 Feb 2013
You can get an exposition of the seven church ages and
the revelation of the seven seals at you
can also listen to all god spoke through him at this
website which is voice of god recordings. you can also
get his life story. you can get all his sermons in
print or on disk. at this website you can also read or
listen to all god spoke through his end time prophet to
the gentiles who has the spirit of elijah and who is
the seventh church age messenger. god uses the spirit
of elijah five times (grace). first on elijah then
elisah then john and then william branham and god will
use it one more time after he trurns back to the
gentiles which lays right in our future. william
branhan has thus saith the lord because it was god
speaking through his vindicated prophet. god spoke the
same truth through bro branham that he did through paul
and peter who had the keys to the kingdom. acts 2:38
is thus saith the lord.
Terry 19 Feb 2013
In my last post i meant to say when god turns back to
the jews. not the gentiles. he has been taking his
bride out of the gentiles now for 2000 years. it is
almost over. we are right at the end of the laodecian
church age which is the last. the seventh church age
messenger has already come. now what god has spoke
through him is going all over the world pulling out his
bride from these organized religions. we now have thus
saith the lord spoke by god through his end time
prophet that takes his bride back to the truth they had
in the first church age where paul was the messenger.
to see who was the messengers to the second to the
sixth church ages get the revelation of the seven
church ages. you can accept acts 2:38 and get
rebaptized in the name of jesus christ or you can
reject that truth with your free will. the decision is
up to you. you are not ignorant of that truth now. or
you can stay with the false baptism in titles which
isn't a name at all.
Terry 19 Feb 2013
Remember god hides himself in simplicity and reveals
himself in the same. the truth has to come by
revelation. god has to show it to you. it is hid from
the wise and prudent and revealed unto babes such as
would learn. just like the natural birth which types
the spiritual there is blood, water and then life. it
takes all three to be born again of the spirit. first
repent and you receive the blood and are delivered from
unbelief. many people stop there and receive the false
baptism in titles instead of the name of jesus christ
and don't get the baptism of the holy ghost. second
get baptized in the name of jesus christ, water. then
the third god does himself and gives you the gift of
the holy ghost. many people repent have an experiance
and are delivered from unbelief but leave the second
part undone which keeps them from receiving the third
part of that verse, spirit, holy ghost.
Sami 19 Feb 2013
Ya i cant even read the bible anymore because there is
some verses that terrify me so much. im probably going
to give up, ive been looking for hope for 2 years now
and nothing is changing. i cried out to god last night
begging and pleading for forgiveness, peace, and
another chance. god used to answer every prayer now he
just ignores me, just like the proverbs says "he
ignores the wicked" and isaiah says "no peace for the
wicked". whatever im going to hell and theres no way
out of it
Christopher 19 Feb 2013
Sami, god answered you in his word! if you're looking
for an excuse to give up on god, you'll find one even
if you have to conjure it up yourself. truth is, god
looooovvvvveeeees you with an infinite love that is
beyond human comprehension! jesus did not come to
condemn, but to save! why are you allowing the devil to
present a false image of god to you? god loves you! god
loves you!
Christopher 19 Feb 2013
Sami, god forgave you! stop waiting for a sign or
voices to confirm this! if you asked for forgiveness,
he has forgiven you! its done! for we walk by faith,
not by sight! without faith, it is impossible to please
god! believe what he says in his word! adam fell
because he allowed satan to paint a false picture of
god! don't let him do the same to you!
Christopher 19 Feb 2013
Terry, i don't know who god passed the mantle of elijah
to after elisha because it wasn't written in his word.
i stay within the confines of god's word, where it is
safe, and wait for fresh revelations from the holy
spirit and from his ministers of the words which is
already written. i've not heard of the branhams but i
will look them up. thank you for the information.
Bill 19 Feb 2013
Hi sami,

thank you for staying in touch on this site. sami…many
of us on this site are here because we have gone
through the terrible experience of
backsliding…sometimes many times over and over. we are
here as proof of god’s forgiveness and love. sami…i
want you to realize something. we are all
broken…terribly broken and full of sin…even if it’s
hidden in our hearts. you are no different from us all.
jesus died and paid the penalty for all of us. the only
difference for you…is your feelings of self
condemnation overwhelming you. and you best believe
that is exactly what satan wants you to feel.
Bill 19 Feb 2013
(continued) i spent many years terrorized by
scripture…feeling i was doomed forever without any hope
or pray…for the same reasons you stated. after burning
myself out with tears and fear…i realized god has been
telling me and all of us all along…we are hopeless and
completely sinful…that’s why jesus had to go through
that horrific experience…for me and for you sami…and
all of us. so don’t give up sami. dump all of it on
god’s shoulders…he heard you sami…now be still and let
him be your god again. don’t concentrate on your sins
sami…that’s god’s problem to fix. you concentrate on
getting to know who jesus really is and getting to know
how good god is.
and come back soon to your friends here on this site.
Bill 20 Feb 2013
Hi sami,
one more thing...i want to leave you with just a few
of my favorite verses for you to meditate on...and
they're not frightening:
isa 1:18 "come now, and let us reason together," says
the lord, "though your sins are like scarlet, they
shall be as white as snow; though they are red like
crimson, they shall be as wool.

joe 2:13 so rend your heart, and not your garments;
return to the lord your god, for he is gracious and
merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness; and he
relents from doing harm.

2pe 3:9 the lord is not slack concerning his promise,
as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward
us, not willing that any should perish but that all
should come to repentance.
Bill 20 Feb 2013
Jer 3:12 "go and proclaim these words toward the north,
and say: 'return, backsliding israel,' says the lord;
'i will not cause my anger to fall on you. for i am
merciful,' says the lord; 'i will not remain angry

mic 7:18 who is a god like you, pardoning iniquity and
passing over the transgression of the remnant of his
heritage? he does not retain his anger forever, because
he delights in mercy.

psa 103:8 the lord is merciful and gracious, slow to
anger, and abounding in mercy.

psa 145:8 the lord is gracious and full of compassion,
slow to anger and great in mercy.

psa 86:15 but you, o lord, are a god full of
compassion, and gracious, longsuffering and abundant in
mercy and truth.
Sami 20 Feb 2013
Thanks chris and bill. i do love those verses. i wish
my faith would grow but it never does. and my sins are
really bad and constant. i think of myself as wise,
judge others, commit adultery all day long, use drugs,
sell drugs, i dont take care of my sick grandparents, i
have purposely walked away from god after already being
cleansed from these very thingsand now im oppressed by
demons and i dont have any faith anymore,im also
separated from god and have no fellowship whatsoever.
Chris 20 Feb 2013
Hey sami, you are in good company here, i struggle with
these verses as well..i posted about my struggles with
heb 6 and 10 just a couple of months ago, now i am
choosing to have faith in all the promises that
everyone has shared with you, but i still struggle with
those verses. my encouragement to you is allow those
verses to have their work in your life. when those
verses weigh on you b/c you have willfully sinned and
you have fallen away use that as an opportunity to
repent of your sin and turn to god. our sin is not
trite matter. again, i am believing that it is not to
late for me and it is not to late for you either, but
when you read those verses and feel condemned repent
and then praise god for his love and mercy! b/c that
condemnation would be a true just judgment on you and
all of us, but god in his love and mercy sacrificed his
only son on our behalf...dont disbelieve, believe!
Chris 20 Feb 2013
Hang in there sami! dont give up! repent and turn to
god with your whole heart! if satan or his demons
oppress you with their lies (b/c he is the father of
lies) and they tell you of how your sin disqualifies
you; agree with them! your sin does disqualify
you...but that is only half the story...the other half
says that you are qualified by jesus christ alone! and
his requirement? believe!...the israelites that got bit
by the serpents just had to look on the serpent that
moses lifted up to be healed...and you just have to
look on jesus who heals your "disqualification"....
Chris 20 Feb 2013
Finally, do any of my brothers and sisters on this site
have an understanding of these passages in hebrews? i
trust that god will either leave them in my life to
keep me humble and to tremble at his word. and if so
praise him! but if someone has a clear understanding on
hebrews 6 and 10 i would love to hear.

god bless you all...i love this thread and when i read
through it and i am reminded of jesus saying, "i come
not to call the righteous, but the sinners to
repentance" praise god our steadfast loving father and
jesus christ his son!
Bill 20 Feb 2013
Chris, i found what you said really encouraging…and i
think you are spot on! as far as hebrews…it’s been
awhile since i studied those verses in 6 and 10. i
think part of the problem most of us have is that it’s
not really saying what it first sounds like. that book
is addressing a very specific audience. they were jews
struggling between walking with the new knowledge of
jesus’ sacrifice and the old way of sacrifice in the
old testament. i believe it is referring to what’s in
those believers mind…and not what god is saying of
himself. i’m going to re-study it again to have a
better answer. but as you know chris…if it meant what
we fear…then israel was finished a long long time ago.
and for that matter…so wouldn’t most
christians…including king david. so we know our first
impression of that scripture must be off.
Bill 20 Feb 2013
Sami…you see…we are all struggling…your sins are no
worse than ours. believe sami, god loves you more than
you can possibly conceive. he’s not going to give up on
you…so don’t you give up on him. he is faithful to
forgive…it’s his promise to us…there is no debate on
that piece of scripture (1jo 1:9 if we confess our
sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness).
Terry 20 Feb 2013

hebrews 10:26 for if we sin wilfully after that we
have received the knowledge of the truth, there
remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.
this verse gave me fear until i received the
revelational meaning of it. those who do this never
knew the lord. they are people who hear the word and
only receice the knowledge of it only and then refuse
to accept it. it doesn't apply to a person who has
repented and god made himself know to that person.
they don't just receive the knowledge of the truth, but
they receive jesus christ and cannot sin wilfully
seeing their nature has been changed. read romans 7:17
to 25. i will try to post it here if it isn't too
long. the word has to be revealed to you. it has to
come by revelation. 2 peter 3:16 says: as also in all
his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in
which are some things hard to be understood, which they
that are unlearned and unstable twist, as they do also
the other scriptures, unto their own destruction

Terry 20 Feb 2013
Romans 7:17 to 25.
17 now then it is no more i that do it, but sin that
dwelleth in me.

18 for i know that in me (that is, in my flesh,)
dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me;
but how to perform that which is good i find not.

19 for the good that i would i do not: but the evil
which i would not, that i do.

20 now if i do that i would not, it is no more i that
do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 i find then a law, that, when i would do good, evil
is present with me.

22 for i delight in the law of god after the inward

23 but i see another law in my members, warring
against the law of my mind, and bringing me into
captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 o wretched man that i am! who shall deliver me from
the body of this death?

25 i thank god through jesus christ our lord. so then
with the mind i myself serve the law of god; but with
the flesh the law of sin.
Terry 20 Feb 2013
When william marroin branham was born the angel of the
lord appeared above his bed in burksville, ky. it was
the same angel of the lord that led the children of
israel through the wilderness in a pillar of fire. the
angel spoke to bro. branham all his life. when he was
young the angel of the lore appeared to him in a
whirlwind in a tree and told him to never drink or
smoke or defile his body in any way because there would
be a work for him to do later. this was before he even
repented. later the angel of the lord appeared to him
and gave him his commission. the same angel came to
him each night when he preached the revelation of the
seven seals and gave him the revelation of each seal
before he preached them. to hear how the angel
appeared to him you can listen to the sermon titled,
how the angel came to me preached nov. 7, 1953. you
can read or listen to this sermon at
Terry 20 Feb 2013
God's prophet william branham who has the spirit of
elijah and is the seventh (last) church age messenger
fufills these verses: rev. 10:7 and malachi 4:5 and
part of 6. john fulfiled the part of 6 that turns the
hearts of the fathers to the childern and bro. branham
fulfils the part that turns the hearts of the children
to their fathers (the apostolic fathers in the first
church age). you can listen yo god's prophet at and type william branham in search and
watch the second video down. b9ff9
Christopher 20 Feb 2013
Terry, none of what your saying about william branham
is scriptural, the only method of information the
christian should accept as fact; you refer to specific
occurrences as if they were indisputable facts. the
"angel of the lord" is not an angel at all, but
pre-incarnate christ, the same who accepted worship,
met joshua on the battlefield, moses in the burning
bush, wrestled with jacob and led israel through the
Christopher 20 Feb 2013
Christ, the angel of the lord, now sits at god's right
hand so the angel that allegedly visited mr. branham
cannot be the same that led israel through the
Sami 20 Feb 2013
If thats what hebrews 10:26 really means then im doomed
Christopher 20 Feb 2013
Sami, king david sinned willfully against the lord when
he had bathsheba's husband murdered and took her to be
his consort; god forgave him. jesus' disciples
willfully denied him and he forgave them. even after
israel's apostasy, god restored her. the question here
is do you want to be with lord or not? you abandoned
him; he will never abandon you. he died for you when
you didn't know him or cared to know him. remember
Christopher 20 Feb 2013
God isnt always going to confirm his relationship with
you in a tangible manner because he did it in his word.
you must now exercise faith. sometimes, god likes to be
wooed as well. this is after all, a love affair! seek
after god and he will turn to you!
Christopher 20 Feb 2013
Genesis 16:7–14. the angel of the lord appears to
hagar. the angel speaks as god in the first person, and
in verse 13 hagar identifies the visitor as a god.
genesis 22:11–15. the angel of the lord appears to
abraham and refers to god in the first person.
exodus 3:2–4. the angel of the lord appears to moses
in a flame in verse 2, and god speaks to moses from the
flame in verse 4.
numbers 22:22–38. the angel of the lord meets the
prophet balaam on the road. in verse 38, balaam
identifies the angel who spoke to him as delivering the
word of god.
Christopher 20 Feb 2013
Genesis 31:11. the angel of god calls out to jacob in a
dream and tells him "i am the god of bethel".
exodus 23:20-21. the lord says he will send an angel
before the israelites, and warns them to obey the
angel's voice, and that the angel "will not pardon
transgressions" because the lord's "name is in
angel that paardons sins?
Christopher 20 Feb 2013
Judges 13:3–22. the angel of the lord appears to manoah
and his wife. in verse 16, differentiates himself from
god. ("and the angel of the lord said unto manoah. .
.if thou wilt offer a burnt offering, thou must offer
it unto the lord.") is there any doubt that the angel
of god depicted here, is god himself? he calls himself
god, accepts worship and pardons sins. was it not
pre-incarnate christ? the holy spirit does not appear
to accept worship in scripture, so this must be christ.
Sami 20 Feb 2013
I tried crying out to god lastnight and i begged him to
not allow my situation to get worst then today my
torment has been so much more severe. i cant stop
thinking about hell, and i feel doomed. i cant find any
way of getting relief from this
Christopher 20 Feb 2013
Sami, how were you expecting god to answer you? has he
spoken to you with audible words? how do you know that
he hasn't answered your prayers? you might feel
condemned, but feeling are nothing; the devil can use
them to your chagrin. trust what god says in his love
letter to you! are you sure that you're not doing
something actively to remain in your situation? god
gave you free will..
Christopher 20 Feb 2013
Keep your eyes on jesus, not on yourself! read the
word, look for him in both the old and new testament.
pray often as you can, thanking and praising god for
all the good and bad in your life! go to a church that
preaches the gospel unadulterated, do something for
someone who cant pay you back, tithe; your heart will
Getrude 21 Feb 2013
Hi sami, our reletion with god is based on faith on
what he said in his word . feelings have nothing to do
with it . you accept forgiveness by faith because he
said in his word 1 john 1 vs 9 if we confess he is
faithfull to forgive us . you do not feel forgiven ,you
know you are forgiven because it is said so in his word
that settles it . christopher is right build your
belief system on what is written in the word and when
feelings or thoughts come bring them unto subjection to
the obidience of christ by rebuking them and declaring
the word of god , 2nd cori 10 vs 5
Getrude 21 Feb 2013
Hi sami, our reletionship with god is based on faith
on what he said in his word . feelings have nothing to
do with it . you accept forgiveness by faith because he
said in his word 1 john 1 vs 9 if we confess he is
faithfull to forgive us . continue...
Getrude 21 Feb 2013

hi sami you do not feel forgiven ,you know you are
forgiven because it is said so in his word that settles
it . to

christopher is right build your belief system on what
is written in the word and when feelings or thoughts
come bring them unto subjection to the obidience of
christ by rebuking them and declaring the word of god ,
2nd cori 10 vs 5
Chris 21 Feb 2013
Sami, i would also encourage you to look at repentance
itself a little bit different. try to not make it
conditional, such as; i confess or repent so that god
will...(specifically forgive and restore) instead
confess and repent b/c god's just judgement is true and
you agree with it...
for instance; when jonah preached to the ninevites and
told them of god's judgement on them, they repented,
but their response was not let us repent so that he
will forgive. instead it was let us repent and who
knows maybe he will forgive...the second repentance is
one that agrees with gods judgement...
all that to say christopher and getrude are totally
right as must ground yourself in the truth
of his word including the fact that if we confess he is
faithful and just to forgive and cleanse...
Chris 21 Feb 2013
Also, when your surroundings, circumstances and
feelings dont change for the better immediately it is a
great opportunity for you to exercise faith. think
about it, it is easy to believe when "all is right" in
our lives, but when you are in the valley it is a lot
more difficult...
one more thought...the prodigal son got to "the end of
his rope" before he realized that he could go home and
have a better life as his fathers servant...the bible
is silent about his journey home but i think it is safe
to speculate that when he started walking home he
probably struggled with a lot of doubts about how he
would be received by his father (probably a little bit
of a "valley" in itself) but what the bible is not
silent on is his fathers response...when he saw his son
on the horizon walking home his father ran to meet

Chris 21 Feb 2013
Sami in the 180 degree turn of repentance there can be
a lot of stuff to deal with...but ground yourself in
the truth, his truth is an anchor in life's
storms...and never give up! as long as their is breath
in your lungs there is still time to turn from yourself
and your own "righteousness" to him and his
Terry 21 Feb 2013
When the bible says jesus sets at the right hand of god
it doesn't mean jesus and god are two persons. jesus
christ is god. right hand means right hand of power.
the father, son and holy ghost is all three jesus
christ, not three gods. heathens believe in many gods,
but jesus said when you have seen me you have seen the
father. when you get baptized in the name of jesus
christ you receive this revelation. bro. branham was
visited many times by the angel of the lord. the same
angel paul spoke to.
Terry 21 Feb 2013
No man can look at god and live, but moses seen his
back parts and said it looked like a man. christopher,
the times god appeared like you said to joshua he was
in another form where he could appear to man. the
pillar of fire hung in the air in bro. branham's room
and then changed into a form that looked like a man and
gave bro. branham his commission. listen to what bro.
branham said about it himself at type
william branham in search and watch the second video
Terry 21 Feb 2013
There is only one god and that is the lord jesus
christ. remember god hides his truth from the wise and
prudent and reveales it to his predestinated. jesus in
matt. 28:19 told his deciples to go and baptize in the
name (singular) of the father, son and holy ghost.
peter was standing right there. then 10 days later in
acts 2:38 he told the people he was preaching to to be
baptized in the name of jesus christ. why? peter had
received the revelation that the name of the father,
son and holy ghost is the lord jesus christ. not three
gods. i am a man and a dad and a person, but that
isn't my name. father, son and holy ghost are titles
of jesus christ. the word says everything yo do in
word or deed (baptism) do all in the name of jesus
christ. not his titles of father, son and holy ghost.
baptism in those titles is a catholic baptism that was
introduced by the false vine around 325 ad.
Terry 21 Feb 2013
A bride always takes the groom's name. jesus is coming
for his bride he has been taking out of the gentiles
now for the last 2000 years. the word says his wife
has made herself ready. acts 4:12, neither is there
salvation in any other; for there is none other name
under heaven given amoung men whereby we must be saved.
it is important not to reject baptism in the name of
jesus christ. many people repent, but few go on to the
true baptism in the name of jesus christ. that is why
so many never receive the true baptism of the holy
ghost. when you receive the holy ghost who is god
himself and not a second person he will lead you into
all truth. the true baptism in the name of jesus
christ has now been restored by god through his end
time prophet. the same baptism paul and peter taught
and it was god himslef speaking through paul and peter
in his form of the holy ghost. not a third god. god
himself in one of his offices.
Sami 21 Feb 2013
I was baptized in a catholic church when i was a baby.
i was raised as a catholic but i didnt become a
believer until i was 15. i stopped taking part in
catholic rituals when i came to know the bible (age
17). atm i feel like god is really against me because
when i came to christ i turned away because i loved my
sins more then i loved him, if i really loved him i
would of kept his commands. i feel like god is being
very severe with me, and the bible says that he is
severe to those who are fallen. i know it sounds like
im going crazy over this but this is the only thing on
my mind and im terrified that im going to hell.
Terry 21 Feb 2013
Jesus is coming soon and will take his bride out of
this earth before the great triblation period sets in.
the wise virgins (those who has taken his name in
baptism and received the true baptism of the holy
ghost) will be the only ones that will go in the
rapture. the foolish virgins (those that have repented
and received the false catholic baptism in titles
instead of the name of jesus christ) will be left
behind and they will go through the tribulation period
because they didn't get oil (holy ghost) in their
lamps. the holy ghost comes after baptism in the name
of jesus christ. read acts 2:38 yourself. when god
spoke these words through peter acts 2:41 says, then
they that gladly received his word were baptized
(rebaptized) and the same day there were added unto
them about three thousan souls. added to the bride.
they were rebaptized in the name of jesus christ and
received the holy ghost. you will have to come the
same way.
Chris 21 Feb 2013
Hebrews 12:5-6
and have you forgotten the exhortation that addresses
you as sons? “my son, do not regard lightly the
discipline of the lord, nor be weary when reproved by
him. for the lord disciplines the one he loves, and
chastises every son whom he receives.”
hebrews 12:11
for the moment all discipline seems painful rather
than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit
of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

Terry 21 Feb 2013
Sami as long as you are away from god you will have no
peace or rest in your soul. satan can only do what god
allows him to do. jesus (god) loves you or he wouldn't
have called you in the first place if he didn't love
you. i know what a terrible suituation you are in, but
there is a solution. repent again and then find a
church that baptizes in the name of jesus christ and
not his titles of father, son and holy ghost. by
acting upon this truth (acts 2:38) god will do what he
says and will fill you with his spirit. then you will
have power over the world your flesh and the devil.
then you will be sealed until the day of your
redemption. the reason you are in the shape you are in
is because you haven't ever been sealed in by the holy
ghost because you haven't been baptized in the name of
jesus christ yet. like david you haven't lost your
salvation, but you have lost the joy of your salvation.
Sami 21 Feb 2013
Can someone please explain to me what luke 13:25-30
Christopher 21 Feb 2013
Jesus is not the father and he is not the spirit. the
father is not jesus nor the spirit, and the spirit is
not jesus nor the father.look at the symbol below. your
information is not scriptural and your promotion of
bro. branham is borderline human deification. there are
three distinct persons in the godhead; this is not
Christopher 21 Feb 2013
Man is similarly three in one, mind, body and soul. all
three is man, yet each is distinct in agency from the
other. to suggest that the father or the spirit hung on
the cross is borderline blasphemy. the scripture says
the word was with god, the word was god and became
jesus. you cannot apply human limitations to god..
Christopher 21 Feb 2013
Luke 13:25-30 refers to those who are religious in
nature but are unconverted and dont have genuine love
for their fellow man. it relates to those who are
pious, and arrogantly believe their religiosity and
dogmatic adherence to ordinances will merit in
judgment. this is a love relationship, not about dos
and donts.
Christopher 21 Feb 2013
What was simply a restoration of a love affair between
god and man, became convoluted into bloated ordinances,
legalism, religiosity, politics, hierarchies, ad
nauseum; there was no love! when one is converted, he
enters into a love affair with god and with his fellow
man, created in god's image. jesus says yeah, you
followed this rule and that, but you never got to know
Christopher 21 Feb 2013
When one knows and loves jesus, he will follow the
commandments by nature; it will no longer be a dry,
loveless adherence to doctrine but a natural, internal
outpouring of genuine love. the woman was rebuked for
pouring her costly oil on jesus,"sell it for the
poor"..this is loveless ordinance, rigidity
masquerading as concern. loving god is our primary
function; everything comes second.
Christopher 21 Feb 2013
Seek first god's kingdom, that is, put as your first
concern the things that are important to god: love god,
spread the gospel to the lost, the object of god's
heart, and alleviate human suffering! terry, sami,
gertrude, chris and everyone else here..this is our
primary function! all other things come second. if you
love your fellow man, you move god's heart!
Christopher 21 Feb 2013
The missing element is love. its what was lost in the
garden. sami, try this: forgive everyone that you have
ought against and watch how quickly god moves in your
life. remember the scripture: when you love your
fellowman, you love god, because man was made in god's
image and is the object of his heart. you, sami are the
object of his heart! if you alone sinned, he would have
still hung on the cross for you alone!
Christopher 21 Feb 2013
By pouring the oil, the woman was doing exactly what
god wants from us: expressing love. she was humbled,
worshiping, full of love and sorrow for her sins, in
other words, she was perfect! jesus chastised the
others, who were judgmental, uncaring, pious and not
hospitable. who do you think jesus welcomed into his
Christopher 21 Feb 2013
“but when the comforter is come whom i will send unto
you from the father, he shall testify of me.” there is
only one god, but he consists of three distinct
persons, father, son and holy spirit. the creator
appeared to adam and eve in visible form in the garden
of eden (genesis 3:8). "this is not a crude
anthropomorphism, but an actual theophany. the ‘word of
god,’ christ in his preincarnate state, regularly
appeared in the garden for fellowship and communication
with his people.
Bill 21 Feb 2013
Hi sami,

you have a group of spirit filled christian sinners
who care about you. do you know why? because that is
god speaking to you. take a deep breath…and slow down.
forget about all those troubling verses for now. stop
lying in bed at night rehearsing scripture that you
think leaves you with only a burning hell that awaits
you. don’t do that. that will only in the end push you
further from god. where you are right now, you’re not
ready for scripture or theology or anything else. you
will only see condemnation in every other verse. slow
down and think clearly (continued).
Bill 21 Feb 2013
God is not mean or cruel. he is not unreasonable. he
has seen it all sami. your sins don’t shock him. and
unfortunately, he usually doesn’t show up at the foot
of our bed at night and say “sami, it’s ok. i forgive
you. now come and walk with me. i have much to show
you” (continued).
Bill 21 Feb 2013
I think you have a lot of things going on in your life
right now that involves more than just your
relationship with god. spend some time thinking…not
about bible verses…but about how you got to be where
you are today. when you get your phd in theology then
you can dive into all those troubling verses. but until
then…just be real with god. tell him everything…and
he’s not deaf…you don’t have to keep asking for
forgiveness. he heard you already. he’s not cold or
hash sami. he just wants you to be honest and real with
him. he created you sami. you’re in his image sami.
he’s stuck with you and you’re stuck with him. you can
quit and run…but he’s never going to give up on you
sami. so come home now sami…be still…and simply ask him
to help you where you’re at today…you can’t fix it…but
he can. he delights in doing miracles. challenge him.

please stay in touch with us.
Christopher 21 Feb 2013
Excellent response, bill, straight from god's heart to
you! i sooooo needed to hear this myself! you packaged
it better than all the theologizing (is there such a
word,lol?)thank you!
Bill 22 Feb 2013
Thank you christopher…i appreciate that. would you
agree that this is a great site? we can express our
weaknesses and help our brothers and sisters at the
same time. it’s a little different from church. we can
be real here.

i like your new creation of the word…theologizing…i’ll
have to remember that…lol.

let’s pray for sami…she’s our sister…she’s in a bad
place right now but god is going to pull her

god bless you christopher,
Getrude 22 Feb 2013
Well expressed guys , i thank god for using you , one
thing i love about this site is everyone expressed from
a sincere heart using what they have gone through
themslves ,its not just about a prepared sermon but
genuine expriences on our journey with lord . indeed
lets keep in touch guys .
Getrude 22 Feb 2013
And to sami , please do keep in touch you are not alone
we love you and will keep praying , this will be a
testimony for you to others ,i declare you will come
out of this situation in jesus`s name.
Christopher 22 Feb 2013
I agree, bill! i thank god for this site, and for you
all! i'm so blessed to be able to hear from you all.
most of all i thank god for being who he is! he's
absolutely wonderful! sami, this gospel is too good to
be true...and yet, it is! it is absolutely, abundantly
far better than we deserve, can hope for or imagine!
glory to god! thank you all!
Gary 24 Feb 2013
I appreciate the words of encouragement from this site.
i have struggled with sexual sin for many years and i
have been through some similar thought processes that
sami is going through, so i understand how hard it is
to stand against it and not totally give up, here is a
link to another site that has helped me
and a specific article about david and bathsheba. keep
fighting sami don't give up.
Gary 24 Feb 2013
Forgot to add the link for the article on david and
here it is.
Terry 26 Feb 2013
Go to and on the bottom right click,
message audio. then in the blank type, the way back.
think you will like this message spoke by god through
his prophet of malachi 4, william marrion branham.
Terry 05 Mar 2013
Sami, how are you doing?
hope all is well with you.
Bill 06 Mar 2013
I was wondering the same thing terry.

guys,let's keep praying for sami.

god bless you terry...and you all.
Sami 11 Mar 2013
Im not doing the greatest. i keep sleeping because i
dont want to face this problem. everytime i think about
the bible it haunts and condemns me. im always thinking
about hell and i came across a verse that really makes
me feel like god doesnt love me anymore like he used to
Terry 12 Mar 2013
Sami, you are letting the enemy twist those verses and
trying to apply them to you. you will continue to do
this without deliverance from this serious condition
you are in. the enemy wants you to be in fear. just
ignore the thoughts he puts in your mind where the
battle is. just simply repent again and go get
rebaptized in the name of jesus christ and god's
anointing will break your fetters the enemy has put on
you. to find a church that baptizes in the name of
jesus christ go to and there is a place
to write joseph branham. tell him what area you live
in and he can give you the name of a message church in
your area. the enemy will try to get you to put this
off so you won't do it at all. don't listen to him.
just simply go do it which is what peter said to do to
receive the gift of the holy ghost. god bless!
Bill 13 Mar 2013
Hi sami,

hey, just hang in there. you’re going to be ok. i’m
afraid of all those scriptures too. but you know what?
the bible tells us that he (jesus) died for the least
of us…are you the least? i feel a lot of times i am.
sami, don’t venture into scripture on your own. if
you’re going to read scripture, do it with someone
along side or with an audio bible study. i don’t want
to push a bible teacher but i found dr. chuck missler
to be a great bible teacher. but you may have to find
what works for you.
Bill 13 Mar 2013
I know sami you probably have a lot of things to work
through…but from someone who has gone through…and
continues to go through…a lot of terrible mistakes…keep
god by your side…hang onto him with a thread…he will
hang on to you tightly. he has seen it all sami…he
knows you…he started loving you when he already knew
what you were going to do in the future. you didn’t
surprise him. you’re a lot harsher on yourself than he
is. and please keep checking in with us sami…you don’t
personally know us…but we are your friends…we have
terrible struggles to share with you also. so please
keep sharing your struggles with us. you’re not alone.

god bell you sami…
Gaeann 19 Mar 2013
Sami, i have those same feelings sometimes, but i
remind myself it's not based on feelings, it's based on
the bible. doing a devotional one morning, the
question asked me who am i in christ. i answered very
quickly without thought: i'm forgiven of my past, i'm
washed clean, i'm a child of god, i'm a person with her
name written on the palm of god's hand, i'm a believer,
i'm someone who has her tears saved by god, i'm someone
who has the hairs on her head numbered by god. you are
the same sami, keep your bible close by, call out to
god, he loves you and all the people that have answered
you are proof, you just have to trust and keep your
faith in him which i know you are or you wouldn't feel
convicted. i pray god will give you peace. gaeann
Gaeann 19 Mar 2013
Sami, i have those same feelings sometimes, but i
remind myself salvation isn't feeling based, it's based
on the bible. doing a devotional one morning, the
question asked me who am i in christ. i answered very
quickly without thought: i'm forgiven of my past, i'm
washed clean, i'm a child of god, i'm a person with her
name written on the palm of god's hand, i'm a believer,
i'm someone who has her tears saved by god, i'm someone
who has the hairs on her head numbered by god. you are
the same sami, keep your bible close by, call out to
god, he loves you and all the people that have answered
you are proof, you just have to trust and keep your
faith in him which i know you are or you wouldn't feel
convicted. i pray god will give you peace. gaeann
Sami 23 Mar 2013
Hey guys. thanks for your help and prayers. i just
started taking antidepressants and they are helping and
my mood is improving so im more productive and not
feeling down all the time. but whenever i think of god
or the scriptures or even try to pray i can feel
torment returning.
Sami 23 Mar 2013
I still think about hell and its always on the back of
my mind, its just not leading me into a terrible
depression like it was before.
Terry 23 Mar 2013
Sami, i have to take antidepressants also plus a lot of
other medications. i believe the lord uses doctors.
if you have a hard time sleeping try lunesta. i cut a
3mg in half and sleep good. my antidepressant is
called mirtazapine. i also take lorazepam for anxiety.
the best prescription though is acts 2:38. hang in
there and acknowledge him in all your ways and he shall
direct your path. lean not to your own understanding.
also pray over your medications before you take them.
god bless!
Gaeann 01 Apr 2013
Sami, i'm so glad you're feeling better; you express
exactly how i feel a lot of the time so it helps me
with my own faith to write to you. satan uses any place
in us where he can grab hold and for us it's in our
confidence that we belong to god. god wants none of us
to perish, and we both believe and want to be with god.
if someone you loved wanted to be with you, would you
say no, you're not good enough? of course not, and god
loves you and me so much more than we can fathom. keep
believing, he's talking to you. with love and prayers,
Laurie 21 May 2013
I have been reading the comments about sami and her
feeling that god does not love her, but sami if you are
reading the bible it is all about god's love. jesus
died on the cross for you! so that you will not parish.
john 3:16 says it all. sami read the word of god and
pray for guidance and understanding, and god will give
it to you.
Laurie 21 May 2013
I have been looking for a church in the lancaster, pa
area is there anyone out there that can recommend a
good bible church?
Terry 21 May 2013
Laurie, go to which is voice of god
recordings and you can write joseph branham from there
and he can tell you of a message church in your area.
acts 2:38.
Sami 21 May 2013
The devil was messing with me so much that i ended up
in the hospital and just got out today, he does this
when ever i start praying or thinking about the bible.
i keep believing that i have crossed a line, beyond
gods forgiveness, after someone said i did.
Gaeann 21 May 2013
i'm glad to hear you are out of the hospital. please
remember, nothing can separate us from god. nothing.
you are his. love, peace and prayers, gaeann
Jim 17 Jun 2013
After reading all the posts of all those that have
turned away from the living god really breaks my heart
to the point of tears. but i too years ago did the
same thing but by the grace of almighty god he brought
me back. as with adam and eve and every bible
character and all of us today god gives us all the
freedom of choice. we can lose our salvation but the
good news is we can also repent of our evil ways and
return to our god, but we need to remember not to wait
bc once we die and we havnt repented its too late we
wont make it to heaven. so, i pray for all of you
struggling out there that our gracious father will have
mercy on you all!
Seth 02 Jul 2013
Terry, you are pushing a cult and false prophet
brother, stay away dude or satan will use that
deception to sneakily send you to hell.
Terry 02 Jul 2013
Seth you sound like one of those denominational
believers that haven't been rebaptized in the name of
jesus christ instead of the titles of father, son and
holy ghost. william branham is the seventh church age
messenger who has the spirit of elijah. just get
baptized according to acts 2:38 and god will reveal it
to you.
Seth 02 Jul 2013
Terry i have been babtized in the name of jesus christ,
you need to be babtized in the holy spirit the helper
that god has sent then you can have wisdom in your
spirit. what you are into is deceptive wickedness from
the enemy, once this guy has people trusting and
believing he is a great prophet, then he starts
controlling and having you do wicked things in the name
of god. people stay away from terry and what he is
promoting, stick to your bible and seeking jesus with
your entire heart. terry ill be praying for you bro.
Terry 03 Jul 2013
Seth, i have received the holy ghost long ago and the
holy ghost isn't a seperate person from jesus christ.
father, son and holy ghost are titles of the same
person, the lord jesus christ. if you have received
the holy ghost your spirit wouldn't come against what
god spoke through his prophet william branham. the
spirit in you will either lead you to truth or away
from truth. bro. branham fulfilled malachi 4 which
turns the hearts of the children back to their fathers
and he also fulfils rev. 10:7. you are misssing the
bride message by not hearing what god spoke through him
and also you are in danger of blaspheming the holy
ghost by speaking against that truth and those that
have received that revelation. you said those that
believe william branham is a prophet is are in a cult.
you can't speak against the bride of jesus christ and
not speak against god himself because they are one. it
would be wise to not speak against what you are
ignorant of.
Seth 03 Jul 2013
see here we go, now this william is equal to christ,
this is cult 100% again stay away from this wickedness
Seth 03 Jul 2013
The church is the bride of christ, and william is
false, phony, fraud, of the enemy, demonic, etc.
Seth 03 Jul 2013
William claimed an angel did hid works and he had an
angel revealing things. well this is not biblical but
read 2 corinthians 11: 13-15 and see where his
supernatural abilities came from. he was false!
Terry 03 Jul 2013
Where did i say william branham was equal to christ?
you are saying i said things i didn't say, seth. the
bride of jesus christ will take the grooms name just
like in the natural. william branham has the ministry
that pulls the bride out of the false trinity
denominations. they are the prostitute daughters of
the mother harlot church (catholic) which believe in
three gods too and use her trinity baptism in titles
instead of the name of jesus christ. there is only one
god and that is the lord jesus christ. he is the
father, son and holy ghost. those are just his titles
or offices like i am a man,dad and a person. now as
far as the angel of the lord speaking to bro branham.
it is biblical. the same angel that spoke to paul the
first church age messenger spoke to bro. branham the
seventh and last church age messenger. did the angel of
the lord speak to paul? better wake up before the
rapture. only those with the true baptism of the holy
ghost will be taken up.
Terry 03 Jul 2013
Seth, instead of you coming against god's people in the
bride and god's vindicated prophet that god used to
raise five people from the dead. he is also the voice
of the seventh angel (earthly angel, messenger) that
fulfills revelations 10:7. plus fulfills malachi 4:5
and 6. it would be best if you take it to the lord in
prayer and ask him if it is the truth or not. go to and listen to the messages in
the book, an exposition of the seven church ages and
those in the book, the revelation of the seven seals.
it was jesus christ himself that brought these truths
through his prophet william branham.
Terry 03 Jul 2013
Excuse me seth, i gave you the wrong website. you can
get those two books at you can also
listen to all the messages god spoke through his
prophet william marrion branham there. a good one to
start out with would be, how the angel of the lord came
to me and gave me my commission. you seem like you
want to speak against god's prophet, but believe me
jesus christ who is god loves his prophet william
branham. william branham has the spirit of elijah and
god uses that spirit five times which is his number of
grace. grace be to all the (message) churches all over
the world.
Seth 03 Jul 2013
The only prophecy he fullfilled is mathew 24: 3-5
Seth 03 Jul 2013
And yes the 3 are 1, not seperate. and i do believe the
catholic church is satans whore, just like i think the
angel that branham used was either satan or one of the
1/3 of angels satan took with him to rebel against god.
branham is a false prophet.
Terry 03 Jul 2013
Have it your way, but remember speak one work against
the holy ghost and it won't be forgiven in this world
or the one to come. you can't speak against a person
filled with the holy ghost without speaking against the
holy ghost. and bro branham has the true holy ghost.
i think you would find it interesting to go to and listen to one of his life stories
before you condemn him and the rest of the bride called
out by god through him. it would be more wise to say
nothing then to try to run him down. that is just
foolish seeing you know nothing about william branham
or what he stands for. if you have the true baptism of
the holy ghost he will lead you straight to the message
god spoke through his prophet william branham. the holy
ghost shall lead you into all truth which includes the
end time message spoke by god through his vindicated
Terry 03 Jul 2013
So you say bro branham is a false prophet. look at his
works. five people raised from the dead. the blind
was given their sight and the lame walked. god
vindicate him. now what have you done? it has already
been proved william branham is a vindicated prophet and
the seventh church age messenger. you won't receive it
so i am done here. i won't argue truth with an
unbeliever. have a good day.
Seth 03 Jul 2013
Terry, the works branham did although, supernatural
were of satan. also, the baptizing argument is
ridiculas, jesus said be baptized im the name of
father, son, holy spirit. then in acts it was said to
baptize in the name of jesus. either is acceptable.
your argument is one of the tricks satan uses to divide
gods people because a house divided will not stand, you
bought into the decption. and yes i am a born again
saved by grace believer reedemed by the shed blood of
our lord and savior jesus christ.
Sami 03 Jul 2013
Sorry terry but i agree with seth. there is something
wrong with the way u have been teaching baptism, but i
just kind of tried to ignore it.
Terry 03 Jul 2013
The word is written where it has to be revealed to you.
it is hid from the eyes of the wise and prudent. the
perfect word can't contradict itself. matt. 28:19
jesus told his deciples to baptize in the name
(singular) of the father, son and holy ghost. then ten
days later when peter who had the keys to the kingdom
preached that sermon in acts 2 it says the people were
pricked in their hearts meaning it got to them and they
ask peter what they must do to be saved. acts 2:38
peter told them to repent and be baptized in the name
of jesus christ and they shall receive the gift of the
holy ghost. why didn't peter say father, son and holy
ghost like jesus said? because peter had received the
revelation that the name of the father son and holy
ghost is the lord jesus christ. not three gods like
the trinitarians believe , but one god in three
offices. the word says everything you do in word or
deed (baptism) do all in the name of the lord jesus.
Terry 03 Jul 2013
If you receive that false baptism in titles instead of
the name of the lord jesus christ you are baptized into
the catholic church. baptism in the titles of father,
son and holy ghost is a catholic dogma. the
trinitarians have received that false baptism which
makes them the prostitute daughters of the mother
harlot church. some of these people have repented and
they went to a denominational church and just got
baptized in those titles because that is what that
church teaches because they are the foolish virgins.
the wise virgins will be baptized in the name of jesus
christ and receive the holy ghost which is the last
part of acts 2:38 and this is why they have oil (holy
ghost) in their vessels.
Terry 03 Jul 2013
The bride always takes the grooms name in the natural
and the natural types the spiritual. the bride of
jesus christ will take the name of jesus christ and be
baptized in that name. you now know the truth about
the true baptism in the name of the lord jesus christ.
god has given you a free will. with your free will you
can accept this truth or reject it. the decision is up
to you and you are not ignorant of this truth now. god
will wink at your ignorance, but after the truth is
made clear to you, you are responsible what you do with
that truth. you can receive it or reject it. god
knows your heart and he is watching what you will do
with his truth now that you aren't ignorant of it. will
you reject it or will you get rebaptized in the name of
jesus christ like the rest of the bride? the decision
is up to you.
Terry 03 Jul 2013
There are message churches all over the world. god
sent his prophet to bring his bride a message to call
her back to the same truth paul preached in the first
church age. where paul preached baptism in the name of
the lord jesus christ so did bro branham. there are
seven church ages and each one has a messenger. these
are the stars jesus is holding in his hand in
revelations. if you get the book from
called an exposition of the seven church ages you will
see who all seven church age messengers are. paul was
the first and bro branham is the seventh and last.
Seth 04 Jul 2013
Anyway ive done enough arguing which is exactly what
the enemy wants on site where christians are
encouraging each other, the truth is its a harsh wicked
world we live in and we need each other.
Terry 04 Jul 2013
Anybody who wants to hear bro branham god's endtime
prophet to the gentiles who fulfills malachi 4:5 and 6
and also revelations 10:7 you can type his name in and watch some of the videos. the grace
dispensation for the gentiles is where god takes a
bride out of the gentiles and last for 2000 years. at you can get the book titled, an exposition
of the seven church ages. this explains how these 2000
years are divides into seven church ages and each
church age has a star messenger to bring people back to
the truth. the book titled, the revelation of the
seven seals explains what satan has done through these
seven church ages. the white, red, black and pale
horses represents a power which is satan and explains
what god sent out to combat him.
Terry 04 Jul 2013
I first repented in 1974. i went to a denominational
church for around three years. two men from my church
had left it and was going to a message church. they
came to my house and told me about acts 2:38. my reply
to them was, does it really say that. they handed me a
bible with it open to that page. i said it really does
say that and went with them that night and was
rebaptized over in the name of jesus christ. by doing
what the word says i received the results of acting
upon the word and received the holy ghost. just like
when you repent you are delivered from unbelief and
know god is real. when you do the second step in acts
2:38 and are rebaptized in the name of the lord jesus
christ you receive the results of the word and god
gives you the revelation that he is one god and then
gives you the true baptism of the holy ghost.
Terry 04 Jul 2013
Jesus christ is coming for his bride and his bride has
made herself ready. not to run them down, but look at
these denominational believers that have only repented
and then were baptized in titles instead of the name of
the lord jesus christ. they still have the world
hanging onto them. the church is represented by women
so lets look at the men and women in them. here are
some things they do which is against the word: their
woman cut their hair, wear pants and wear make up that
is a heathen trait. their men smoke cigarettes and
wear shorts and a lot of them even have long hair.
bride? that isn't the bride jesus is coming for. the
bride women will wear modest apparel and not cut their
hair or wear make up and the bride men will not smoke
or wear shorts or grow their hair long. you say these
things don't make a difference? what is on the inside
will show on the outside.
Terry 04 Jul 2013
When bro branham was in africa he preached to
thousands. there were blanket native women there which
didn't wear anything on their top. when he ask if
anybody wanted to accept the lord jesus these woman
raised their hands and as soon as they did when their
hands came down the first thing they did was cover
their breast. then the next time you saw them they
were fully clothed with dresses all the way to to
ground and their breast covered. this shows something
happen to them on the inside. god makes people dress
right and it is satan who wants to make women dress
where men will look at them to lust after them.
Terry 04 Jul 2013
Think it doesn't matter how women dress? the word says
if a man looks upon a woman to lust after her he has
committed adultery already with her in his heart. when
a woman dresses and shows her flesh and puts on make up
she is doing that for men and not god. when she
dresses and shows her flesh and causes men to lust
after her she will be guilty at the judgement just the
same as if she committed the very act with all those
men she caused to look at her in the wrong way. look
at how the women dress in the message churches. they
dress to please the lord and not man. when you come
all the way through acts 2:38 the world is completely
cut off of you.
Seth 04 Jul 2013
Agreed that women should not dress revealing, but you
are taking it to far in some sense, and the more you
reveal about your cult/ church the more you preach
condemnation to anyone who doesnt act or do what your
cult teaches. also you say truths will be revealed when
you get babtized a certain way. its nonsense everything
you need is in the word of god, and god will give those
who ask wisdom freely. you sir are sold out to a wicked
and tackfull attack from satan himself and are
basically gonna turn people away rather than lead to
christ. god is love, god does hate sin and requires us
to live godly lives but is not about the condemnation
you push and the more you talk the more weird and un
godly it becomes.
Seth 04 Jul 2013
In doing more reserch about branham, you can find that
his parents were not christians but into demonic
fortune telling, he hated women, thus the strict dress
code, he belived cain was the serpant seed, and blamed
women for the sin of mankind. also he would claim that
the angel ( satan) would descend upon him and when that
happened he his words would be that of god. then at
best would be extra- biblical if not un biblical. again
stay away from this cult. it is meant to decieve for
satan is the father of lies and branham was used by
satan not god.
Terry 04 Jul 2013
I don't know where you are getting your information,
seth. bro branham's parents weren't into fortune
telling and he didn't hate women and the angel of the
lord that spoke to him wasn't satan. now as far as the
serpent seed doctrine it is the truth. the bible says
the serpent was more subtle (smart) than any beast
(animal) of the field which the lord god had made.
that is genesis three if you want to read it. so this
beast came to eve and beguiled (deceived)her and she
had sex with it because it was so close to man it's
seed could mingle and that is where cain came from and
why the word says cain was from the wicked one. eve
had twins one from adam and one from the beast. it
wasn't until after that happen that god cursed the
beast from the head of the animal family to the end of
the reptile family to a serpent and that is why it says
he shall eat dust all the days of his life. adam wasn't
cain's daddy.
Terry 04 Jul 2013
You do not understand these truths because you can only
go as far as your denomination will teach. the bride
of jesus christ is not ignorant of these truths like
the seven church ages,the seven seals, serpent seed,
baptism in the name of jesus christ and so many more
truths that have been revealed to god's bride. i sense
you just have a religious spirit like the religious
pharisees who just wanted to find fault with jesus
christ who is the word and condemn him and and his
words. the truths god spoke through his prophet
william branham is thus saith the lord. just stay with
your denomination and what they teach. it looks like
to me you have already used your free will to reject
the truth instead of receiving it. you just want to
argue and wrestle the scriptures to your own
Terry 04 Jul 2013
Btw, it wasn't an apple eve ate like your denominations
teach. god himself brought the truths to his bride
through his prophet william branham so he would have a
bride standing on the whole word when he returns. the
whole truth will be revealed to them just like the
people had in the first church age where paul was the
messenger. i gurantee you those believers were not
ignorant of what happen in the garden concerning adam
and eve and cain and abel and the beast of the field
(animal) and the truth of what happen there. at you can listen to the whole sermon titled
serpent seed before you speak against this truth spoke
by god himself through his prophet. it isn't wise to
speak against what you are ignorant of especially when
it is thus saith the lord. you can't receive these
truths without the holy ghost and you receive the holy
ghost after you are baptized in the name of jesus
christ. then the holy ghost will lead you into all
Terry 04 Jul 2013
Go to and from there you can contact joseph
branham who is a prophet also and he can tell you where
a message church (church that has received the
revelation that william branham is the prophet of god
with the spirit of elijah who is the forerunner to the
second coming of christ) is in your area. they are all
over the world. the message god brought through his
prophet is going all over the world gathering up the
bride of jesus christ and getting her ready for the
rapture. they will all be baptized in the name of
jesus christ and all be filled with oil (holy ghost).
they are the wise virgins. the foolish virgins will be
left here to go through the tribulation period. enter
ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and
broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many
there be which go in thereat. notice strait here is
spelled like a strait of water.

Jim 04 Jul 2013

the bible makes it clear that fall of man came from
the eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge, it had
nothing to do with intercourse? both adam and eve ate
of the fruit..

nowhere does the bible say cain was conceived by
anyone else but adam. it does not say satan, the
serpent or any other knew eve. when eve bore cain she
said he was from the lord, not satan. she saw this
child as a gift from god. certainly this would not be
the case if satan was progenitor of cain. you don't get
a demon child from god or with his help, nor do you
praise him for it.

this becomes a matter of whether one wants to get
there teaching from the bible or use their own
imagination. the same word adam knew his wife and she
conceived cain is used in gen.4:17 that cain knew his

Terry 04 Jul 2013
It has to come by revelation or you will never see it.
it is hid from the eyes of the wise and prudent.
Seth 05 Jul 2013
Jim, as you know its hogwash cult material, not in the
bible and of the enemy.
Terry 05 Jul 2013
Birds of a feather.
Jim 05 Jul 2013
Yes seth, its just as you say!
Terry 05 Jul 2013
It looks like you both (seth and jim) have decided to
use your free will to reject baptism in the name of the
lord jesus christ. with your denominational trinity
baptism in titles instead of the name you are baptized
into the catholic church. the catholic church is the
mother harlot church and believes in a trinity (three
gods). the denominations use her same baptism in the
titles of father, son and holy ghost and they are the
prostitute daughters of the mother harlot church. some
of them are the foolish virgins and will be given
eternal life, but they will have to die a martyrs death
in the tribulation to be purged to receive it. those
that repent and get baptized in the name of jesus
christ are the wise virgins because they have done the
first two parts of acts 2:38 and god does the third
part and gives them the true baptism of the holy ghost.
only those with the true baptism of the holy ghost
will go in the rapture. those that have taken the
groom's name.
Seth 05 Jul 2013
God bless terry
Jim 05 Jul 2013
God bless terry
Jim 05 Jul 2013
I'll be prayin for ya terry!
Seth 05 Jul 2013
I reject william branham as anything more than a false
prophet who spoke to dark supernatural entities, and
decieved many encluding you. his ministry was set up by
the enemy to divide the body of christ.
Jim 05 Jul 2013
Seth my brother , i dont follow anyone except jesus
christ- i agree with you
Terry 05 Jul 2013
How could william branham's ministry divide the body of
christ when he has the ministry that calls the bride
out of these organized religions. the ones called out
by god through his prophet is the bride. these
denominations surly are not the bride. the message god
brought through his vindicated prophet is the bride's
food. they are the bride. if not who do you think the
bride are? the denominations and their mother church
can't even agree with themselves. that is mystery
Terry 05 Jul 2013
God never changes and he always uses one man to bring
the truth back to his people from where they have
strayed. that trinity baptism was introduced by the
false vine around 325 ad. paul the first church age
messenger taught the truth and william branham the
seventh and last church age messenger taught the same
truth as paul. the false vine (catholic church and her
daughters) introduced their dogma of baptism in titles
of father, son and holy ghost, but now in the end time
god through his prophet has restored the truths lost
from the first church age back to his bride so he will
have a bride standing on all the word when he comes to
take her out of the earth before the tribulation. the
foolish virgins will miss the rapture. the bride are
the ones who have taken the groom's name and not
rejected it. his wife hath made herself ready.
Terry 05 Jul 2013
There is one god. the same god spoke to moses on the
mountain and was above the people. the same god
overshadowed mary and created the germ and egg in her
womb that brought fourth jesus christ and that was god
with the people. now that same god is in the form of
the holy ghost and is in his people. so jesus christ
is god and it was god himself that died on the cross in
a body he created and named that body jesus christ.
father, son and holy ghost isn't three gods. it is one
god the same god in three manifications or three
offices. jesus said when you have seen me you have
seen the father. having gods plural is heathen. type
william branham in and watch the second,
fourth and eighth video. the second one is part of his
life story and the fourth is where he was interviewed
in his home. the eighth is where he is praying for the
sick. it would also be good to read all the
testimonies of people that were healed by god through
Terry 05 Jul 2013
There is a very good message church in arizona. the
pastor there is, bro. garold macgraw. you can listen
to their live services and older sermons he preached at
this website. the website is, enjoy!!!
Terry 05 Jul 2013
Here is another good message church in trinidad, sa.
their website is www. i believe you
will enjoy the music at this church. also there is the
branham tabernacle in jeffersonville, indiana. it is
at eight and penn street. and you can always listen to
any sermon god spoke through his prophet at
enjoy the brides stored up food. there are many more
truths i could tell you that has been revealed to the
bride, but i don't want to give you strong meet until
you can digest the milk.
Jim 05 Jul 2013
No thanks, i get all the meat i need form god's holy
Seth 05 Jul 2013
Yea no need to get fat on cult propaganda. im good with
non satan inspired word of god.
Sami 06 Jul 2013
Guys i really still do believe that i have lost my
salvation. like im in such a bad state of depression.
god won't listen to my prayers anymore, it has been 2
and a half years and he still ignors me. i sin sooo
much after the truth of the scriptures has been
revealed to me. i no longer produce fruit and im
terrified to read the scriptures now because it
condemns me in the worst way. i am positive that god
has stopped loving me because the bible says so. i
believe he despises me and he has the most severe
punishment prepared for me because of my apostasy. i
think about hell alllll the time. i should have never
been born :(
Terry 06 Jul 2013
Sami, god still loves you. you just need to repent
again and don't go by your feelings. then contact
voice of god recordings and they can tell you where a
church is in your area of the world that baptizes in
the name of the lord jesus christ. then go there and
get rebaptized in the name of the lord jesus christ and
god will fill you with his power and restore your faith
and your first love. here is vog recordings address
and phone number: 5911 charlestown-jeffersonville pike
jeffersonville, indiana 47130
just do this and don't let the devil get you to resson
it in your mind. just act on acts 2:38 and you will
receive the results of the word just like when you
repented the first time and god made himself known to
you. now get rebaptized in the name of jesus christ
and you will receive the results of acting uopn the
word again and god will restore your relationship with
him. god bless.
Terry 06 Jul 2013
Sami, i was reading some earlier post and i told you
the same thing concerning getting rebaptized in the
name of jesus christ. peter was given the keys to the
kingdom and here is what god spoke through him to be
saved: acts 2:38 - then peter said unto them, repent
and be baptized every one of you in the name of jesus
christ for the remission of sins and ye shall receive
the gift of the holy ghost. just do what god spoke
through peter there to do and don't let satan get you
to reason it in your mind and don't let satan use other
people to try to get you to reason this truth. just
simply do what acts 2:38 says because it is thus saith
the lord. be strong and just simply do it and i will
be praying for you that god will keep satan from your
Jim 06 Jul 2013
Sami, whatever you do stay away from the above branahan
cult church and just trust in the lord. this branahan
character is a brainwashing cult google branahan false
teacher and you will find all you need to make a godly
decision. i will be praying for you sami!
Jim 06 Jul 2013
Submit yourselves, then, to god. resist the devil, and
he will flee from you. — james 4:7
Jim 06 Jul 2013

the followers of william branham believe that he is
a prophet sent from god and that we are living in the
age of laodicea or the final church age. god revealed
his word through william branham (called brother
branham), brother branham is the voice of god to we who
are living in the end-time. the beliefs of the
"branhamites" center around the teachings and
revelations of william branham, especially "the
revelation of the seven seals" and "the seven church
ages" (these texts can be accessed at . they do not
believe in the trinity and feel that the denominations
do not have the full revelation of jesus christ. one of
the more radical beliefs of the group is that of
serpent seed which states that the first sin committed
occurred when eve engaged in sexual activities with the
serpent in the garden of eden thus causing "the fall of
Terry 06 Jul 2013
Sami, i knew the devil would send somebody in here to
try to turn you away from the truth. just don't pay
any attention to what satan says through them. they
are all denominational believers that believe in three
gods which is heathen. just do what acts 2:38 says.
satan will use these people to try to get you to reason
the truth and discredit the true baptism in the name of
jesus christ. just simply get rebaptized in the name
of jesus christ like the word says and you will be
alright. just ignore anything satan will try to put in
your mind through these religious people to try to get
you to not get baptized according to the word. the
devil will fight you on this truth just like he fights
to keep people from repenting. don't listen to
anything he has to say and do what acts 2:38 says
because that is god's word.
Jim 06 Jul 2013
And terry, i will also pray for you. when folks are
spiritually blind they are the most difficult people to
speak to. they have that "strong delusion" that paul
speaks of in 2nd thess 2:11 it just like my mom, she
is catholic and has no desire for the truth of gods
word, but i still pray for her!
Terry 06 Jul 2013
To all you religious believers trying to confuse sami
you are doing it by trying to run god's prophet down
and what god spoke through him. remember the word
won't come back void and sami can read acts 2:38 for
him or herself. can you all tell sami acts 2:38 isn't
the truth? didn't think so. acts 2:38 is thus saith
the lord spoke through peter who has the keys to the
kingdom. you all are letting satan use you to try to
turn sami away from the truth and you will reap what
you sow. you all can do no harm because all those
predestinated to be bride will come god's provided
route, acts 2:38 and he will not lose any of his own.
you all will just be left in your old cold formal
denominations churches and continue to listen to lies
and rejecting the tuth god spoke through his vindicated
prophet which is the sopken word bride message that
calls her out from those dead three god believing
denominations. there is only one god and he is the lord
jesus christ.
Christopher 06 Jul 2013
Terry, not only is your deification of branham
borderline blasphemous (in that you tout him more than
jesus christ himself) and your doctrine unscriptural
but now you're judging another person after the
scripture specifically instructs you not to do so. you
should concern yourself with sami, instead of harping
on whether someone believes as you do or not.
Christopher 06 Jul 2013
Terry, you'r posting on a website that knows that god
is three persons in one. just look at the symbol below
the posts. there are too many scriptures in the bible
that attest to this to list here..
Terry 06 Jul 2013
Sami, you can listen to what satan tries to put in your
mind himself by thoughts or what he puts in your mind
by speaking to you through religious and not spiritual
people. you can read acts 2:38 yourself and you don't
need anybody to tell you different. just read it and
simply act upon all three parts of that verse. you
don't need anybody to tell you anything different. it
is right there in simplicity. has anything these
people told you helped? you are still in the same
backsliden state, but baptism in the name of jesus
christ will set you free and satan knows it and he is
doing what he can to keep you from doing what acts 2:38
says, but don't listen to him. the only way you can
overcome satan is do what the word says in acts 2:38
and satan will no longer have any power over you and he
knows that and that is why he is fighting so hard to
keep you away from the truth of being baptized in the
name of jesus christ.
Jim 06 Jul 2013
Terry, the only confused person here is yourself. you
have a good heart in wanting to help sami but bc of the
cult you have entered into you are trying to pull him
and us into it but i am not easily deceived as many
christian brothers are. be a berean terry and test
everything, your eternity is at stake!!!!
Terry 06 Jul 2013
I am not confused. i repented in 1974 and was only in
a denomination for around eight months until i seen the
truth of baptism in the name of jesus christ and never
looked back. you are still caught up in mystery
babylon. you all can keep trying to turn people away
from the truth of acts 2:38 and try to keep them from
getting baptized in the name of jesus christ, but it
won't do you any good. you think you are doing god a
service by trying to turn people away from the message
god brought through his prophet, but you are really
against god by your false vine denominational
trinitarian mystery babylon foolish virgin prostitute
daughter belief.
Terry 06 Jul 2013
There is a trinity, but not like your denominations
teach. matt. 28:19 jesus said to baptize in the name
(singular) of the father, son and holy ghost. father
isn't a name. son isn't a name. holy ghost isn't a
name. the name singular of the father, son and holy
ghost is the lord jesus christ. i am a man and a
person and a dad, but that isn't my name. that is why
peter who was standing right there when jesus spoke
those words in matt. 28:19 said ten days later to be
baptized in the name of jesus christ because he had
received the revelation that the name of the father,
son and holy ghost is the lord jesus christ and without
being baptized in the name of jesus christ you sins
aren't even remitted. there is only one god and he is
the lord jesus christ. jesus christ is god and not a
second person of the godhead. one god in three
offices. not three gods. one
Terry 06 Jul 2013
To christopher. you are wrong about god being three
persons. there is only one god and he manifested
himself in three ways, but he can't be three persons.
it has to come by revelation, but i don't believe
people can receive it until after they are baptized in
the name of jesus christ. without receiving the right
baptism you stop short of receiving the true baptism of
the holy ghost because you leave out the second part of
acts 2:38. acts 2:38 doesn't say to repent and get
baptized in the titles of father, son and holy ghost
and ye shall receive the gift of the holy ghost. it
does say if you repent and get baptized in the name of
jesus christ you will receive the gift of the holy
ghost. only then can the holy ghost lead you into all
truth. without being baptized according to the word in
the name of jesus christ you will just receive a
religious spirit and not the holy ghost because you
leave out part of god's provided route to himself which
is acts 2:38.
Seth 06 Jul 2013
Sami, god loves you and longs for you. what you need to
do is honestly search your heart and ask god to show
you if there is active sin going on in your life. if
there is you need to repent with your whole heart. sami
repenting means not just saying sorry it means turning
away from that which keeps you from him. if you do this
he is faithfull and just to forgive you and make you
whole again.
Terry 06 Jul 2013
For some reason you all want to make acts 2:38
complicated. it isn't hard to understand. man with
his intelect can put a man on the moon but can't
explain the life in a blade of grass and walks over it
every day. acts 2:38 is the same way. you don't have
to try to figure it out or try to find some way around
it. it is right there in the word and easy to
understand what it says. if the spirit in you isn't
leading you to truth then it is some other spirit
leading you away from truth and trying to lead other
people away from the truth also. reject baptism in the
name of jesus christ and the god you claim to serve
will condemn you in the end. by telling people to use
your false vine mother harlot trinity baptism in titles
instead of the name of jesus christ you do more harm
than good. the spirit in you is really against god.
just simply find a church that baptizes according to
the word and get baptized over in the name of jesus
christ before it is too late.
Seth 06 Jul 2013
Sami, the thought that god will never forgive you and
you are condemed only cheapens the sacrifice that god
did for you, when he gave himself as sacrifice for the
sins of humanity. besides that it is direct conflict to
what the word says. satan knows the scriptures better
than you or i, he will seek to decieve you through
them. im willing to bet that you have some active sin
going on in your life that is,blocking you from him.
just be honest, what do you want more? the sin or
relationship w the almighty and peace?
Seth 06 Jul 2013
Oh and sami one other thing, stay away from cults, bro
terry is serving one up to you as we speak, stick to
the word find a bible based church.
Jim 06 Jul 2013
Seth, all we can do is pray for terry! lets move on
and hopefully the spirit of god will open his eyes and
convict him in the near future. see you in the end- god
bless seth!
Terry 06 Jul 2013
I detected something strange here and just thought all
people understood this simple truth. god never changes
and he always uses a prophet to speak through. that is
the office of a prophet. even in the old testament the
believers always went to the prophets to know what god
says. so when a prophet speaks it is always thus saith
the lord. they don't make mistakes. bro. branham is a
true vendicated prophet and every vision the lord gave
him came to past except for the ones that are for the
future and they will come to past also. a prophet is a
special office god uses to speak through and there is
only one vendicated prophet to our age and that is
william branham. it wasn't brother branham we worship,
but we respect that office he held just like paul. we
the message believers worship jesus christ only and he
is god. william branham is god's mouthpiece that he
used to bring the truth to his bride. what brother
branham spoke was god's words and they are thus saith
the lord.
Seth 06 Jul 2013
Yes jim, good idea, pray for terry move on
Sami 06 Jul 2013
Seth...before i lost my salvation i wanted my sins more
then i wanted a relationship with god, but now that
that has been taken away from me i desire gods blessing
more then my sin now that i cant have it. correct me if
i misinterpreted this verse but in hebrews it says that
esau later desired his fathers blessing but was
rejected. i see alot of similiarities with that verse
and my self..and im aware of terrys cult..anyways
thanks for the help
Terry 06 Jul 2013
Sami, you can say i am in a cult and i forgive you for
that. what i want to know is if you are going to do
what acts 2:38 says. that is no cult, that is the
word. now i have heard from people that if you have
really crossed the line between mercy and judgement
where you can't get back that you wouldn't have any
interest in the word at all. you wouldn't even care
anymore. that doesn't sound like you or you wouldn't
even post here trying to find spiritual help. it looks
like there is still a desire in your heart to get back
with the lord. if you have went too far you wouldn't
even want to get back with him. you don't have to
believe me, but can you believe what peter said in acts
2:38? i might add when you receive the real baptism of
the holy ghost you can't backslide without god bringing
you back because then you are sealed into the lord and
the world is sealed out. you are sealed until the day
of your redemption.
Seth 06 Jul 2013
Sami, that verse is in refrence to a story of jacob and
esau. however now we live under the grace of the
sacrifice of our lord. the reason may be sami, that if
you harbor unforgivness you cannot recieve the lords
forgiveness, that is biblical fact! so i believe the
sin you are harboring is unforgivness and you dont
realize it because the one you are not forgiving is
you! the principal still remains the same you cant hold
unforgiveness and,recieve the lords. you are a human
who is wicked by nature, ask the lord to forgive you
then forgive yourself and get a fresh start.
Christopher 06 Jul 2013
Terry, i agree with you that there is only one god but
he is also three. i'm not going to pretend i understand
it all neither am i going to attempt to limit god to my
pitiful human comprehension. can god be three and one
at the same time? why not? one god in three distinct
persons. aren't we also three?
Christopher 06 Jul 2013
My body is me, my mind is me and my spirit is me, yet
the body, the mind and the spirit are distinct from
each other, and sometimes at enmity. there are things
the body wants that the conscience say no to, and
things the conscience wants that the mind cant
comprehend. we are only a shadow of god..
Christopher 06 Jul 2013
If i fast, my body craves food but my will resists;
that's enmity between body and mind. i might attempt a
feat i accomplished before but fail due to some
unforeseen physical impediment; my mind saw the feat
achieved it but the flesh failed to bring it to
fruition. my mind might see an opportunity to steal an
item but my conscience might resist it; that's enmity
Christopher 06 Jul 2013
Each is distinct yet all three are entirely me. my body
speaks through functions, urges, pain and pleasure; it
is not of my conscious doing. hunger pangs tell me i
need to eat; the mind ascertains the means to achieve
and directs the body to seek food. if i fast, my
conscience might tell both that food is not on the
proverbial menu just yet..
Christopher 06 Jul 2013
If my body can speak to me outside of my conscious
control, it can be regarded as being distinct from the
body. if this were not so, then i should be able to
just think of food and my body would be filled. the
mind and the body are not the same, yet both are me. if
i being three, am made in the image of god, how is god
not three but infinitely more so?
Christopher 06 Jul 2013
God is not a man, neither is he limited to man's paltry
cognitive reasoning skills; he's god. we are based on
his design, not the opposite. the scripture plainly
records jesus pleading to his father in gethsemane over
the issue of the cross. jesus desired to pass the cup
but was urged to press on. is he talking with himself?
absolutely not..
Christopher 06 Jul 2013
The mind, body and spirit hunger for different things.
the mind can't hunger for food because food is not
within its realm of existence, yet it is affected by
its lack. if the body wants food, the mind and spirit
have to agree. the mind directs the body to food. the
mind hungers for data which the body considers useless.
if the mind hungers for data, it needs the eyes, ears
and other parts of the body to achieve it.
Christopher 06 Jul 2013
How can we be spiritually dead yet alive if this were
not so? if we are three distinct entities and yet one,
each with their own passions, appetites and agendas, is
it possible that this is also true with god?
Jim 06 Jul 2013
Hmm... very good synopsis of the trinity christopher-
very well put! i may copy this and use it if its ok
with you.
Seth 06 Jul 2013
Bingo chris, you nailed it.
Terry 06 Jul 2013
Don't let the enemy get you to use reason. that is
what satan done through the beast before he was cursed,
got eve to reason the word. eve already know what god
had said, but the devil got her to reason and doubt
what god said painting a pretty picture to her and she
fell for it. just simply act on the word and then let
god reveal it to you. the word is written where it
can't be understood with reasoning. just read it and
believe it and act upon it and god will do the rest.
lean not to your own understanding, but in all your
ways acknowledge him and he shall direct your path.
now take baptism in the name of jesus christ and ask
him if that is the way to be baptized or if it is
important to be baptized in the name of jesus christ.
then let him give you an answer and when he does it
won't be hard to understand if you can hear his voice.
ask and you shall receive and when you get an answer
from him quickly do what he says.
Christopher 06 Jul 2013
Jim, please use this! if it will at all help someone
wrap their minds around this simple truth, then by all
means use it! isn't it peculiar that the mind actually
is the head of the other two? how amazingly similar to
the trinity! the father is the mind, christ the body
and the holy spirit as the soul! just a thought...
Christopher 07 Jul 2013
..on the subject of the apparent impossibility of god
to be three separate beings and one, lets look at other
aspects of him that are equally impossible. how can god
have always existed in eternity past? that makes
absolutely no sense to me but it is true. how can god
be everywhere at the same time? omnipresence isn't god
having one leg on one end of creation and the other at
the far end; omnipresence means all of god is in your
home and all of god is in mine. impossible? true.
Christopher 07 Jul 2013
How can god see into a future that doesn't even exist?
how did god call all of creation out of absolutely
nothing? how did nothing respond? how did infinite,
eternal, omniscient, omnipotent god become a human
being? if you can believe these things to be true, not
just recitation and rote, then it is easy to believe
that god is three beings and yet one, especially when
its repeated all throughout the old and new testament.
less than a hundred years ago, scientists thought they
could determine a person's personality by the shape of
his skull; this was quickly debunked. ma
n's reasoning is flawed at best.
Christopher 07 Jul 2013
When jesus was baptized, the holy spirit descended on
him as a dove, and a voice from heaven declared, "this
is my son, in whom i am well pleased" god
schizophrenic? we have jesus, a dove and a voice! how
is this not three separate, distinct persons? 1 john
5:8 delineate the three persons of the godhead. jesus
said that the hour of his return was not known by him,
but the father. on the cross, he yelled in anguish,
"father, father, why have you forsaken me?" was he
talking to himself? jesus is entirely god, the father
is entirely god and the holy spirit is entirely god;
three separate beings, one god. i don't understand it
and i don't have to. god says it, i believe it.
besides, who would want to worship a god that was
limited by paltry human reasoning anyway?
Seth 07 Jul 2013
But........but.......... william branham said something
else! who should we believe?
Seth 07 Jul 2013
Chris god has used you strongly in this message board
restore truth!
Seth 07 Jul 2013
How about, when jesus says to the father if there can
be another way, take this from me but not my will but
Christopher 07 Jul 2013
Absolutely. jesus, in a heart breaking expression of
his humanity, sought his own will in attempting to
avoid the "cup", that is, the inherent separation his
propitiation would cause. to whom then did he concede
when he was intensely praying in the garden, if he was
adamant about avoiding the cup?
Jim 07 Jul 2013
Thanks christopher
Terry 07 Jul 2013
Go to then on the bottom right click,
message audio. then in the space where it says, search
by sermon date or title, type: the godhead explained.
across from that on the left you might also like to
listen to the message titled, how the angel came to me.
if you type, life story in the blank there are eight
of them. you can also type the sermon in the blank
titled, the water baptism.
Terry 07 Jul 2013
This is another sermon you can listen to. it is
titled, the serpent's seed. now this has been disputed
by many because it is contrary to what their
denominations teach. before you condemn it or listen
to somebody that doesn't believe it and condemns it
listen to it yourself and then you can make your
decision on hearing it yourself instead of just
condemning it because somebody else spoke agiainst it.
just pray before you listen to it and ask god that if
it is the truth that you want him to reveal it to you.
the word says you have not because you ask not. i want
you all to listen to all the sermons i gave you and
then after that make up your mind. then you will have
at least listened to part of what god spoke through his
prophet before condemning him. what if he is the
messenger to this last church age? you wouldn't want
to find yourself speaking against him ignorantly if god
sent him. lesten to these messages and more if you want
and then make up your own mind.
Seth 07 Jul 2013
no thanks terry.
Seth 07 Jul 2013
Its condemed because its not biblical, its cult
propaganda. get back satan you dont belong here!
Jim 07 Jul 2013
He is really hung up on this branahan cult-'strong
it has overcome him- god is the only one to change his
heart so continue to pray for him!
Terry 07 Jul 2013
How can you call the end time message not biblical or a
cult or propaganda without ever listening to bro.
branham yourself? so you speak in ignorance. now if
you are referring to me as satan i forgive you for that
and i have as much right here as you. the word says if
you speak one word against the holy ghost it won't be
forgiven in this world or the one the come and you
can't speak against somebody who has the holy ghost
like i have and not speak against the holy ghost. that
is what the religious world done to jusus. now you can
call me what you want and you can reject the true
baptism and the message god sent through his prophet if
you want, but there are other people here that post
that might want the whole truth. so you don't have to
write me anything anymore. what i post won't be for
you seeing you reject it, but don't try to get in
somebody's way that that does want the truth. the
message isn't for unbelievers anyway. it's only for
the bride.
Seth 07 Jul 2013
Jesus said my sheep know me by my voice. he didnt say,
even though my word says one thing listen to william
branhan and do what he says.william branhan is nothing.
Terry 07 Jul 2013
Remember jesus christ who is god and his bride are one
just like any husband and wife are one. so when you
speak against any of the bride members you speak
against god himself which there is no forgiveness. if
you haven't crossed the line between mercy and
judgement yet it would be more wise to just not speak
anything against god's bride or his prophet william
branham who is bride or the message which is god's own
words spoke through his prophet. i am not hung up on
bro. branham. he is my brother just like paul. jusus
christ is my god and i worship him and him alone and i
believe the whole bride message god spoke through him
because it is thus saith the lord. what i post here is
for the bride only that might be caught up in mystery
babylon so they can come out. it is only for the
predestinated seed of abraham. they are the only ones
that will have eyes to see it and ears to hear it.
Seth 07 Jul 2013
We dont want others needing help seeking your garbage.
thats why i came on here in the first place terry. you
offer distorted unbiblical trash.
Seth 07 Jul 2013
I dont speak against jesus, i speak against satan and
his schemes to which you have become victom to.
Terry 07 Jul 2013
Seth and jim. what i post here won't be for you two
anymore so you don't have to respond to my post. now
if you want to argue about anything i post i suggest
you email each other or call each other on the phone,
but this isn't a place to argue or try to run someone's
belief down. so remember anything i post here isn't to
you two. you don't even have to read what i post which
would be better so your not inclined to make comments
belittling what i post to each other. that isn't
helping anybody. so anything i post here i suggest you
just bridle your tongue concerning it because my post
won't be to you two anymore. i am here to help
backsliders and not argue your false vine religion.
and don't try to stand in somebody's way that does want
the truth by commenting to them about me or what i post
here trying to rum me and what i believe down.
Seth 07 Jul 2013
Well im not gonna let you try to poison others with
that stuff without responding.
Christopher 07 Jul 2013
Terry, i can only assume that you could not have known
brother branham personally because he died 48 years
ago, so what you do know of him could only have been
derived from recorded material, books, videos or tapes;
when brother branham was allegedly visited by an angel
and appointed the mantle of an end-time prophet of
note, you were not there physically to witness and
corroborate his claim, yet you espouse his rhetoric
with passion and fervency as if it were fact. the holy
bible is also a source of recorded material documenting
events you weren't physically there to witness as well.
you have a choice to believe which of the two sources
of recorded information is the truth, the bible or
branham's allegations. you did not witness the events
of the bible, and did not witness branham's alleged
Jim 07 Jul 2013
This is proof right here what jesus said about strong
delusion 2nd thess 2:11 "for this reason god sends them
a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie"
terry we are trying to help you overcome the evil you
believe, the lies you have that have overcome you the
lie that you follow. i see so much of this going on
today and its sad- very sad to see brothers decieved
and not following the true jesus. i will continue to
pray for you terry
Christopher 07 Jul 2013
Actions speak louder than words and every one of your
entries heralds branham's rhetoric as fact; you embrace
everything he says as gospel but dispute what's plainly
written in the holy scripture? why are you allowing
branham to interpret scripture for you when you have
your own bible and a god who's willing to reveal
himself to you?
Christopher 07 Jul 2013
Because you were not there to witness branham's (ahem)
divine visitation, you cannot promote it as fact; you
have absolutely no proof it occurred. if you fail to
establish branham's claim as fact beyond a shadow of
doubt, you cannot build from there with anything else
he claims, including his interpretation of scripture.
what you're left with is your faith..
Christopher 07 Jul 2013
If you're here to point others to christ, then point
them to christ without forcing branham down their
throats; fact is, branham's deceased and waiting to be
judged; jesus is alive now and forever more.
Christopher 07 Jul 2013
Sami, you must choose god. if you want to die in your
sins, it is your choice. there are 100 times more
scriptures of god's promises to forgive all who come to
him, than there are scriptures of condemnation. can i
suggest a plan to you? dedicate a day to god: fast for
a day from food, television, entertainment and personal
endeavors. spend the day reading/meditating on the
bible, (including psalms, and the gospels) praying and
doing things for a less fortunate then tell us how you
Terry 07 Jul 2013
For those of you who have gotten away from the lord i
have a couple of sermons i believe will help you. just
go to and on the right botton click message
audio. then in the blank type, the unpardonable sin
and you can hear it from there. the other message type
in, the way back. these are two good messages and i
believe if you think you have committed the
unpardonable sin that after you listen to these sermons
you will see what the unpardonable sin is and that you
haven't done that. if you still have a desire in your
heart to get back to god where you have peace and rest
in your soul then there is a way back for you.
remember bro. branham died, but when he comes back in
the resurrection for his third pull he will stand upon
the earth alive with the gathered bride and introduce
her to jesus christ. he will point to the sky and say,
behold the lamb of god coming in glory and they will
all be gone. all prophets have three pulls. even
jesus had three pulls.
Jim 07 Jul 2013
Terry, are you reading what everyone is saying here??
read christophers post just above yours! you have 3
born again believers trying to get you back on the
narrow road, your babbling on and still trying to get
us to listen to a video. stop and take a breadth and
ask god to open your eyes to the truth of his word!
Terry 07 Jul 2013
All those that have died in the lord are not dead.
they all have been gathered to their people and are
back fully in their theophany. when the resurrection
takes place all these saints will walk upon the earth
for around a month. they will get together with the
saints that are still on the earth and they will all be
gathered together in one place. bro branham will be
right there and he will point to the sky and say,
behold the lamb of god coming in glory and they will
all be gone in a twinkling of an eye. bro. branham
introduces the bride to jesus christ all prophets have
three pulls and brother branham has had two and the
third one is still to come and will give the bride
rapturing faith. just wait until the tent meetings.
Terry 07 Jul 2013
I am not backslid. my post here are for those who are
backslid only. i'm not looking for help from
trinitarians. i am way up the road from that strong
trinitarian delusion. satan can't get me on that lie
now. left all those false religions in 1979 and was
rebaptized in the name of jesus christ according to the
word. then the holy ghost led me right to the message
of the hour. there are thousands of us and are all
over the world. if you disagree with anything i say
just ignore my post. my post are to the backsliders in
here only and not to unbelievers.
Christopher 07 Jul 2013
Terry, none of what you're saying is scriptural,
especially branham's role as christ's herald during the
rapture, or resurrected saints walking around "for a
month". none of this in in the bible, the only source
of divine inspiration given to man. whether or not you
are sadly deceived is not for me to say; i leave that
to the lord. we should simply pray for one another but
don't expect anyone here to allow you to spread
deception among those who are sincerely seeking the
Terry 07 Jul 2013
Three born again believers. your not even born again
until after you receive the holy ghost and that only
comes after baptism in the name of jesus christ. until
then you are only believing unto the baptism of the
holy ghost. the denominations are the modern pharisees
and sure they will all agree because they have been
taught their mother's doctrine and are prostitute
daughters of the mother harlot church. now we who are
bride have been called out of all that mystery babylon
and we are many and we all agree with each other, the
word and all the revealed hidden truths of the word
spoke through god's prophet. we are the bride of jesus
christ and we have all taken his name and all been
filled with the true spirit of god. unless you come
god's provided rought (acts 2:38) you will just receive
a religious spirit and are no different then the
pharisees when jesus walked the earth. he was the word
and the whole religious world was against him. same
Terry 07 Jul 2013
I'm not deceived nor am i spreading deception. it is
your interpretation of the word that is the deception.
i believe acts 2:38 and have done what it says and
received the results of acting on the word. you reject
the true baptism. acts 2:38 isn't a deception. it
is the word of the lord. so you are the deceived one
and you don't have authority to allow or disallow who
post here. like i said you don't have to read my post
and what i post is none of your business. i don't
believe what you post and you don't believe what i
post. just stay with your false baptism in titles and
i will stay with baptism in the name of the lord jesus
christ. that truth can't be taken from me by satan
through anybody. it has been revealed to me by god
himself and has become part of me. acts 2:38 is matt.
28:19 with the revelational meaning.
Jim 07 Jul 2013
Terry, you need to read matthew 7:22-23- 2nd peter
3:14-18, 2nd peter 2:1-3, revelation 22:18-19
Seth 07 Jul 2013
John 3:16 : for god so loved the world he gave his only
begotten son, so whoever believes in him, shall not
perish but have everlasting life. notice how it doesnt
say whoever babtizes in the name of jesus instead of
the trinity shall recieve secret wisdom not revealed in
the scripture because god likes mystery games.
Seth 07 Jul 2013
And if jesus said to be babtized in the name of the
father, son, holy spirit. then paul came and said be
baptized in the name of jesus knowing the trinity
representation as 3 in one and all 3 entities are one
god, then its the same thing. scripture makes it clear
the way to salvation is confess with your mouth and
believe in your heart. that jesus is savior and died
and rose again. then you shall be saved. your argument
is set up directly from the enemy to divide the body of
believers. its a battle tactic divide and conquer.
Christopher 07 Jul 2013
Seth, don't waste anymore precious energy by drawing
attention to rhetoric; pray for terry. people are won
by action, not words. engaging this issue any further
will only derail the purpose of this thread which is to
offer loving opinions, advice,anecdotes and testimonies
to those seeking guidance. god bless you all.
Seth 07 Jul 2013
You are right chris
Seth 09 Jul 2013
Sami, how are you doing? fyi if you need someone to
pray for you or agree with you in prayer im here. i get
alerts on my phone just like a text, so it wont take
long. my offer is for everyone . god bless.
Sami 10 Jul 2013
Im doing ok seth. i am up and down all the time, and
the devil never leaves me alone. it still seems that i
have been cut off from christ. thank you for your
prayers seth i do need them :)
Seth 10 Jul 2013
Sami, although you may not feel close to god, and it
may seem he is not near to you, he has not cut you off.
that would be in direct conflict to his word. again
examine your heart, if there is something in there that
you need to repent for do it, and then forgive
yourself. the devil will never stop trying to lie to
you, or tempt you. but greater is he who is in us than
he who is in the world. do not cheapen the sacrifice
that jesus made by thinking you have done something
that is greater (sin) than the cross, that is sin in
itself but you are not alone, just repent of that also.
if god could forgive king david for adultery and murder
before christ, surely there is nothing you cant be
forgiven for. anyway i am prayinh for you now and will
continue, if there is any specific thing you want me to
pray for tell me.
Seth 10 Jul 2013
It really seems sami, that you hold doubt and its
because you know how bad you have been and feel you
dont.deserve forgivness, and you dont forgive yourself.
you can not recieve forgivness and mercy until you
forgive. that evem means you!
Terry 10 Jul 2013
Acts 2:38: then peter said unto them, repent and be
baptized every one of you in the name of jesus christ
for the remission of sins and ye shall receive the gift
of the holy ghost.
Sami 11 Jul 2013 sins are many, there is so many addictions in
my life that is impossible to break free from on my own
strength. all i do is sin, and i know the bible well
enough to know that i am on my way to hell. i have
spent the past 2 and a half years trying to repent and
return to god and it never works out. before all this
started happening, god used to speak to me through his
word like i was one of his people and now it seems like
he is treating me like an enemy.
Seth 11 Jul 2013
Sami, i understand adiction, so does god. i have been
delivered from many. the simple truth is this sami, you
have your walk with god or spuritual life, then you
have your sinful adictions. god cant be present in sin
he is holy. so if your are constantly feeding these
adictions you will not hear anything but the conviction
of god....more next message
Seth 11 Jul 2013
Your spiritual mind is not open for god to talk to you.
its noy that uou cant be forgiven that is just a lie
from hell. the fact you are convicted and feel the need
to repent means god is still working all he can but you
have a free will. if you say you try to repent and god
is not listening at the same time feed your sinful
adictions its just a lie and you are not honest with
yourself.....more next
Seth 11 Jul 2013
Adiction is more complicated than the human mind can
understand, but not more tham god can. its a simple
truth in a complicated matter sami, you have your
relationship with god, then you have your sin
life(adictions) whichever you feed will grow, which
ever you starve will die. god is not through with you
are a lost child he loves and longs for. if you.need
help seek help but not without prayer and fasting. help
in a worldly form ( meds) will only make you more
dependant on something that will hold you in bondage.
Jl 12 Jul 2013
Hi you all!

i have also been backsliding for years and years. do
not give up, repent, seek lord jesus, confess your
sins, accept forgiveness!

lord jesus can save to the uttermost.

may lord jesus keep us all.

now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling,
and to present you faultless
before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
to god our savior,
who alone is wise,
be glory and majesty,
dominion and power,
both now and forever.

-- jude 1:24-25

if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to
forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all

-- 1 john 1:9

for we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize
with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as
we are, yet without sin. let us therefore come boldly
to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and
find grace to help in time of need.

-- hebrews 4:15-16
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
God did not lower his righteous standards or his
expectations of man's conduct in the covenant of grace;
what he required of man then, he requires now; herein
lies the problem. seeing how utterly incapably man
performed and how infinitesimally short of the mark he
came under the covenant of the law, god rendered a new
plan. man cannot abide by the law and didn't suddenly
become capable of abiding by the law after christ. the
covenant agreement changed, not man. if adam being
innocent chose to come under the bondage of sin and
became fallen, how much worse are we being inheritors
of his fallen nature which is in the flesh? as long as
we are in flesh, the influence of adam's fallen nature
is still with us
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Religion is man's ineffectual attempt to change who he
is inside by his outward actions; christianity is god
changing man, who he is on the inside, and promoting
the outward manifestation of the change outwardly.
religion is utterly futile because the outward action
is an expression, a reflection of the inward condition;
one cannot affect the by the outward because the inward
is the truth. the outward is a reflection of what is
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
A sinner cannot sow to the spirit because he is
spiritually is dead; he can only sow to his flesh, the
part of him that is alive. a christian can sow to his
quickened spirit by denying the fallen, cursed flesh.
true conversion "creates a clean heart" and "renews a
right spirit" but "as a man thinketh, so is he". a
christian, now made righteous by the forgiveness of
sins and transference of christ's divine (and earned by
works-based) righteousness, can only act righteously,
that is, perform righteous works, (which includes
obedience to the law) by believing that he is righteous
because of what christ did on the cross! the christian
as an act of faith, walks in it by acting outwardly
what happened inwardly.
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Remember, sin came into the world because adam did not
believe that god loved him (because if he did, he
would've contradicted eve and the serpent) and
manifested his unbelief by his actions so it makes
perfect sense that believing in god, not only his
ability to do right by man more importantly, his
willingness to do so out of love, would be the conduit
for restoration and reconciliation unto god. faith
precedes all willful action; before we do anything, we
first believe we can do it. no one fires an ice cube
from a slingshot to blot out the sun.
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
When jesus healed the lame man, he asked him to rise
and walk; the lame man was healed by faith in jesus,
that is, he believed that jesus was willing and able to
do as he claimed. the man's faith as manifested by his
actions! ("i'll show you my faith by my works") the
lame man could have said, "jesus, i believe i can walk"
till he was blue in the face but if he didn't stand up
and walk, that is, put his faith in action, he would've
remained crippled. he believed in god's love for him;
that he would heal him because he loved him. this is
the opposite of what adam did and is therefore
considered righteousness
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Imagine if you will an orwellian dystopia-future
society that outlawed sin (a la pre-judges israel).
every time a member of this society committed a sinful
act (looked lecherously at a woman, lied, judge
another, coveted someone else's possession, gambled,
thought an evil thought, cursed, etc) an electric
charge zapped him. imagine how miserable that society
would be! they would live a life of utter despair,
hopelessness and pain, and none of them would be
righteous! even if all of them were conditioned by
years of electro-shock therapy and none of them sinned,
they would still be unrighteous because they lack love
on the inside!
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Of all the interactions jacob could have chosen, he
chose to wrestle with god/pre-incarnate christ for a
blessing; why would jacob wrestle god for something
that was already his? did he not hear from his mother
rebecca that he was blessed from the womb? why did
jacob as so many christians do today, believe he had to
work, to strive to earn god’s love? jacob wasn’t
victorious until he surrendered to god; ceased from
works. he understood that there was nothing that he
could do to increase or decrease god’s love for him;
nothing he could do to earn it, so he rested in god’s
love and was blessed.
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Seth, gideon was called a "mighty man of valor" by god,
while he was hiding from the midians but he believed
god, that what god called him is now who he is, in
spite of his self-assessments and became a mighty man
of valor! after all, this was the same god who with the
same mouth called all things into being. if god calls
you something, you better believe that's what you are!
gideon's belief in god changed him, not his innate
capacity to be brave because up until that point,
before god stepped onto the scene, and in his own
strength, he was a coward.
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Scripture says that abraham believed god and it was
counted unto him as righteousness. incredibly enough,
his faith in god and what he was willing and able to do
in his life, was counted as righteousness; the
sacrifice of his son, perhaps the most righteous,
selfless act by a human being aside from the earthly
life of jesus, isn't listed as righteousness, even
though it is. the holy spirit records abraham's faith.
can i suggest that abraham wouldn't have been able to
obey god and sacrifice his son if god hadn't changed
him from within through his faith, in the first place?.
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Peter was able to walk on water because he trusted
jesus, that he was willing and able to make him stay
atop the water. peter was on the water for a period of
time, albeit brief. as soon as he took his eyes off of
jesus, and allowed fear and doubt to enter his mind, he
began to sink. his capacity to "stay above water" was
and is entirely christ-centric; peter didn't achieve
the power to walk on water to then do it by his own
power. power only comes from continually looking to
christ in faith.
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
The gist of this whole dissertation: why do christians
believe that now that they're saved, they're required
to earn god's love or maintain their salvation by
righteous works? a christian will never earn god's love
on this side of eternity; he was redeemed by christ
while he was a sinner. he is no more worthy of
redemption as a christian, than he was as a sinner.
"while we were yet in our sins, christ died for us".
perfect what god began in his life by the exercising of
his own will? every atom in creation is generated,
controlled and sustained by god; why does man believe
that his will to resist sin is outside of god?
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
A christian will never have victory over sin as long as
he believes its his duty to steel his or herself and
refrain from sin by virtue of his or her indomitable
will power! man's new nature is his intimacy with
christ, not his will by virtue of his freedom from
sin's bondage which is also intimacy with christ. when
adam was innocent, he sinned! we have sinful flesh to
contend with! man couldn't abide by the law in his own
strength, and never will or christ died in vain.
remember, god emptied himself to become a man because
of his love and our insufficiency; what makes man
arrogantly believe he abide by the law because jesus
wiped his slate clean? christ's shed blood removed our
sinful acts, words and deeds but his resurrection gave
us the capacity to love, without which a righteous life
is impossible
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
You cannot add to your salvation; righteous works will
not make you more christian. a christian who fasts 40
days and nights every month, gives all his money to the
poor, never marries and lives in a church is no more
righteous than the christian who does none of those
things. all a christian can bring to his salvation is
his sin.
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Christians can only have victory over sin by trusting
in god; the payment for sin on the cross and the
indwelling holy spirit's work of remolding man from
within by his relationship with god through christ
which only works if we believe in it. we, like the lame
man, a metaphor for our incapacity, act out our faith
by rising up and walking in it. sami, if you truly
repented, it doesnt matter how you feel, you're healed!
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Sami, we have all sinned; whoever says he or she does
not sin, is a liar. we sin because we do not yield to
him who dwells within. believe that christ lives in
you, and you will be victorious. salvation is a life
long process. sami, jesus will lovingly prune away your
sinful habits and addictions if you let him..
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Any christian who believes his or her salvation is
maintained by his or her ability to obey the
commandments, by his or her prayers or some such
ordinance, is under the law, not grace. we obey, pray
and read because we love god and express our love
thusly, not because it is our duty. god wants our love,
not our fealty.
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
We become obedient, pray, love others, read scripture,
etc because we love god, not out of duty. we love god
because we yield to his indwelling spirit, not because
we exercise our paltry will. god lost his lover and is
wooing him/her back to him. his arms are open wide! "i
forgive you, my love!" he cries! this is the gospel!
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Sami, read the book of hosea! god redeemed you from the
auction block of sin while you were still stinking from
your sins! he bought you with his blood, even though
you were already his, from the devil. this is the
gospel. he wants his love back, no matter the cost, no
matter how many times you broke his heart! dont you
know how much he loves you?
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Sami, this is a romance novel not a tale of revenge!
boy loses girl, boy gives his life to regain girl! it
has a happy ending but you have to want it for
yourself..may god burn this into your heart.
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
He or she that truly repents has been transformed by
god into a new creature inwardly. the new creature is
unfortunately shrouded by a cocoon of worldly flesh.
the larvae is nurtured, that is, strengthened by
prayer, reading the word, loving god and man, and by
denying the flesh, but it cannot even begin to grow, if
the christian doesn't believe the initial change took
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Sami, if you allow circumstances to dictate truth to
you, you will sink like peter, remain crippled like the
lame, remain in hiding like gideon, still wrestling
like jacob,and eating forbidden fruits like adam!
believe god! though pharoah has you trapped between
chariot wheels and the sea, stand still (rest in his
love) and see the salvation of the lord!
Christopher 12 Jul 2013
Sami, if you need to wait till you feel tingly all to
know you're loved, then you call god a liar, and you
make your feelings into a god. isaac relied on his
senses too, when he felt jacob's fur covered arms, and
blessed the wrong man, so to speak! we walk by faith,
not by sight! believe god! take him at his word!
Terry 27 Jul 2013
What to do to be born again of the spirit of god:
answer: acts 2:38
all three parts of this verse has to be done for god
to give you his spirit. without doing all of acts 2:38
you will end up receiving a demonic religious spirit
and not the holy ghost. with your free will you can
accept it or reject this truth. the decision is up to
you. once you receive the true baptism of the holy
ghost you are sealed until the day of your redemption.
don't do like most people and repent and get baptized
in titles of father, son and holy ghost instead of the
name of jesus christ. just like the natural birth it
takes the blood, water and spirit. blood when you
repent, water when you are baptized in the name of
jesus christ and then a promise from god he will give
you the gift of the holy ghost. his spirit to dwell in
you and will lead you into all truth. amen
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